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On a Blindsight tangent, that's exactly what "techniques will occur when a void is found" was about: the passive is on purpose, encoding the philosophical zombi

On a Blindsight tangent, that's exactly what "techniques will occur when a void is found" was about: the passive is on purpose, encoding the philosophical zombieism of martial zen. The conscious mind is useful (like s/w for resolving a TLB miss) for calculating useful things to have in the cache, but in an antagonistic situation, one needs to have a high percentage of h/w-served hits. If one consciously decides to employ a technique, one will certainly not surprise oneself, and one will probably not (unless one's heart is very spherical indeed?) surprise an opponent who is practicing the 3rd of the "3 pwns"*. (indeed, I find the evolutionary just-so for consciousness to arise from the 3rd pwn: once one has the grey matter in place to model others, modelling oneself would be a natural side effect) * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39898001 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39898001

vinnyvichy 2y ago
You shoved everything into the utility functional (god of the spectral gap)). How should one incorporate theories of mind (to all orders) into the ゆ[ ]? (Or 幽[ ]*) With the aforementioned quiver varieties? *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%C5%ABrei https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%C5%ABrei Let the holey spirit be formless for the now. (Genesis 1:2≬3) Looking forward to ℞ from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_in_the_Art_of_Archery#Influence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_in_the_Art_of_Archery#Infl...
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  Would that be a physicists/chemists', mathematicians', or psychologists' spectral gap? (or is it a mixed state, not a pure?) Glad to see you've found the unicode necessary for the naughty part of the AMEN combinators: https://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/pgh/arithmetic.lhs https://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/pgh/arithmetic.lhs EDIT: > If we're not in pain, we're not alive I actually saw this non-ironically somewhere (The View From 80 perhaps?) in which it was suggested that, after a certain age, waking up with pain is a positive sign, with the rationale that if some part of your body doesn't hurt, maybe you didn't really wake up after all...
  - vinnyvichy 2y ago
    Mathematicians', although there IS an equivalent Physicist-chemist formulation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9586289/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9586289/ https://arxiv.org/abs/1809.10171 https://arxiv.org/abs/1809.10171 'https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NbM_wzSJ8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NbM_wzSJ8 And then there is the mixed one which could be undecidable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang%E2%80%93Mills_existence_and_mass_gap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang%E2%80%93Mills_existence_a... RE: "naughty" = labelled "abstossende" by Cantor?
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      "Naughty" would rather be "anziehende" for Cantor; note Shakespeare, Much Ado About Nothing. EDIT: yet another GrIneq! Any motivation for it? Max Cut clearly has applications in fratricidal hardware (see Bombers, Strategic) and it's also dual use (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40701284 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40701284 ) in that pulling wholes apart (into parts which may themselves be amenable to decomposition) is the analysis step which (in general position) precedes synthesis.
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  Kyūdō (stationary archer and stationary target) may be good, but Yabusame (archer in motion) is even better. Yabusame may be good, but targets in motion are even better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTaYvMmNYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTaYvMmNYU [The sixth patriarch happened to be passing by. He commented: "Neither the archer nor the target is in motion; mind is in motion".] Dx: There are more things in Heaven and Earth than allow a small (speak not of the 10'000 things) finite presentation: ignoramus et ignoramibus (as our light-cone expands we always encounter new information on its boundary) Rx: Sheaves allow one to synthesise globalitites by coordinating handfuls of localities. Px: The hacker will move amongst essential entropy as a fish (whale?) swims in the sea.
  - vinnyvichy 2y ago
    [Best non-ironic usage of bullet-time class of edits.] PEx: s/entropy/surprisal/? (Just a nod to Memorious, for the now) REx: to keep, barely, out of my Conscious, using lagniappes. L (for the plainsmen): https://youtu.be/FspytbymxpI https://youtu.be/FspytbymxpI EDIT: the ironic (Kutznets哈哈）thing about Mongols, they overwhelmed the other barbarians with advanced tech (gunpowder, siege engines, biowarfare) but now we admire their neolithic technik.
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      Pedantry: spear-throwers (atlatls) were neolithic; composite bows are more bronze age. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_bow#Origins_and_use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_bow#Origins_and_use
      - vinnyvichy 2y ago
        By golly I did it again! Ok. That prompted me to look for spectral evidence :) >specimens of compound bows with bone backing in Serovo graves https://www.jstor.org/stable/276490 https://www.jstor.org/stable/276490 Might be pushing the definition?
        2y ago
mistermann 2y ago
> but in an antagonistic situation, one needs to have a high percentage of h/w-served hits. Can you explain "h/w-served hits"? (I am guessing other than conscious?)
- vinnyvichy 2y ago
  I'm guessing it's about the general rule of thumb that hw is faster than sw, and so can react to urgent situations in a timely fashion. As for why sw might be shorthand for consciousness: sw can modify itself (and thus react to strategic issues) ... so yeah, hw is more or less defined as something that cannot modify itself.
  - mistermann 2y ago
    Firmware is exceptional though.
    - 082349872349872 2y ago
      Fair enough, and we could get into microcoded architectures too. But basically the analogy (originally built around TLB handling) is supposed to be: software slow & flexible conscious response hardware fast & inflexible reflex response We're altricial, not precocial, so over our lifetimes we can (and hopefully do) alter many of our own "reflex" behaviours. In particular, details of the 4 F's are firmware configurable. Does that make sense? Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__KfrDZoBgQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__KfrDZoBgQ (for mistermann)
      - mistermann 2y ago
        Yes but "4 F's"? Also, there's lots of potential for failure (and I'd say it is overwhelmingly observable that we have and do) in "can (and hopefully do)". Who knows what our absolute capabilities are, especially if we hardly or maybe even never try (at least certain things)? Writing the capabilities to firmware is a step after this, but only after the first step is accomplished.

vinnyvichy 2y ago

You shoved everything into the utility functional (god of the spectral gap)). How should one incorporate theories of mind (to all orders) into the ゆ[ ]? (Or 幽[ ]*) With the aforementioned quiver varieties? *https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%C5%ABrei https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%C5%ABrei Let the holey spirit be formless for the now. (Genesis 1:2≬3) Looking forward to ℞ from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_in_the_Art_of_Archery#Influence https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_in_the_Art_of_Archery#Infl...

082349872349872 2y ago
Would that be a physicists/chemists', mathematicians', or psychologists' spectral gap? (or is it a mixed state, not a pure?) Glad to see you've found the unicode necessary for the naughty part of the AMEN combinators: https://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/pgh/arithmetic.lhs https://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/home/pgh/arithmetic.lhs EDIT: > If we're not in pain, we're not alive I actually saw this non-ironically somewhere (The View From 80 perhaps?) in which it was suggested that, after a certain age, waking up with pain is a positive sign, with the rationale that if some part of your body doesn't hurt, maybe you didn't really wake up after all...
- vinnyvichy 2y ago
  Mathematicians', although there IS an equivalent Physicist-chemist formulation: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9586289/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9586289/ https://arxiv.org/abs/1809.10171 https://arxiv.org/abs/1809.10171 'https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NbM_wzSJ8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NbM_wzSJ8 And then there is the mixed one which could be undecidable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang%E2%80%93Mills_existence_and_mass_gap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yang%E2%80%93Mills_existence_a... RE: "naughty" = labelled "abstossende" by Cantor?
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    "Naughty" would rather be "anziehende" for Cantor; note Shakespeare, Much Ado About Nothing. EDIT: yet another GrIneq! Any motivation for it? Max Cut clearly has applications in fratricidal hardware (see Bombers, Strategic) and it's also dual use (see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40701284 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40701284 ) in that pulling wholes apart (into parts which may themselves be amenable to decomposition) is the analysis step which (in general position) precedes synthesis.
082349872349872 2y ago
Kyūdō (stationary archer and stationary target) may be good, but Yabusame (archer in motion) is even better. Yabusame may be good, but targets in motion are even better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTaYvMmNYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTaYvMmNYU [The sixth patriarch happened to be passing by. He commented: "Neither the archer nor the target is in motion; mind is in motion".] Dx: There are more things in Heaven and Earth than allow a small (speak not of the 10'000 things) finite presentation: ignoramus et ignoramibus (as our light-cone expands we always encounter new information on its boundary) Rx: Sheaves allow one to synthesise globalitites by coordinating handfuls of localities. Px: The hacker will move amongst essential entropy as a fish (whale?) swims in the sea.
- vinnyvichy 2y ago
  [Best non-ironic usage of bullet-time class of edits.] PEx: s/entropy/surprisal/? (Just a nod to Memorious, for the now) REx: to keep, barely, out of my Conscious, using lagniappes. L (for the plainsmen): https://youtu.be/FspytbymxpI https://youtu.be/FspytbymxpI EDIT: the ironic (Kutznets哈哈）thing about Mongols, they overwhelmed the other barbarians with advanced tech (gunpowder, siege engines, biowarfare) but now we admire their neolithic technik.
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    Pedantry: spear-throwers (atlatls) were neolithic; composite bows are more bronze age. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_bow#Origins_and_use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composite_bow#Origins_and_use
    - vinnyvichy 2y ago
      By golly I did it again! Ok. That prompted me to look for spectral evidence :) >specimens of compound bows with bone backing in Serovo graves https://www.jstor.org/stable/276490 https://www.jstor.org/stable/276490 Might be pushing the definition?
      - 2y ago

mistermann 2y ago

> but in an antagonistic situation, one needs to have a high percentage of h/w-served hits. Can you explain "h/w-served hits"? (I am guessing other than conscious?)

vinnyvichy 2y ago
I'm guessing it's about the general rule of thumb that hw is faster than sw, and so can react to urgent situations in a timely fashion. As for why sw might be shorthand for consciousness: sw can modify itself (and thus react to strategic issues) ... so yeah, hw is more or less defined as something that cannot modify itself.
- mistermann 2y ago
  Firmware is exceptional though.
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    Fair enough, and we could get into microcoded architectures too. But basically the analogy (originally built around TLB handling) is supposed to be: software slow & flexible conscious response hardware fast & inflexible reflex response We're altricial, not precocial, so over our lifetimes we can (and hopefully do) alter many of our own "reflex" behaviours. In particular, details of the 4 F's are firmware configurable. Does that make sense? Lagniappe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__KfrDZoBgQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__KfrDZoBgQ (for mistermann)
    - mistermann 2y ago
      Yes but "4 F's"? Also, there's lots of potential for failure (and I'd say it is overwhelmingly observable that we have and do) in "can (and hopefully do)". Who knows what our absolute capabilities are, especially if we hardly or maybe even never try (at least certain things)? Writing the capabilities to firmware is a step after this, but only after the first step is accomplished.