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Was this article written by AI? It's a strange mix of really basic stuff and true advanced suggestions, jumbled together with no apparent organization scheme.

Was this article written by AI? It's a strange mix of really basic stuff and true advanced suggestions, jumbled together with no apparent organization scheme. Then the "complex tasks" are just a couple basic system administration examples that I can't figure out the purpose of either, they don't show off most of the tips mentioned above and don't really help inspire a sense of power for shell scripts.

ethbr1 2y ago
> a strange mix of really basic stuff and true advanced suggestions, jumbled together with no apparent organization scheme Sounds very bash-ish.
chubot 2y ago
If I look at the other posts, yeah it feels very LLM-ish https://omid.dev/posts/ https://omid.dev/posts/ They are good at generating code with some stilted prose around it Also yeah the cadence and number and topics of the posts makes me suspicious -- I don't a theme or purpose, just a bunch of "content"
- nsayoda 2y ago
  I'm 110% certain it's ChatGPT based on the other posts. If you look at the current top three latest posts: https://omid.dev/2024/06/19/advanced-shell-scripting-techniques-automating-complex-tasks-with-bash/ https://omid.dev/2024/06/19/advanced-shell-scripting-techniq... https://omid.dev/2024/06/19/advanced-angular-change-detection-strategies-for-high-performance-applications/ https://omid.dev/2024/06/19/advanced-angular-change-detectio... https://omid.dev/2024/06/18/haskell-monads-functors-and-applicatives/ https://omid.dev/2024/06/18/haskell-monads-functors-and-appl... They all end with: "Happy coding!", "Happy scripting!", and "Happy Haskell coding!". For some reason, when you ask ChatGPT for a blog post about coding, it'll always end with "Happy coding/scripting". I run a similar blog, and there's a lot more massaging I have to do post-query to get it into a more "human-like" state (removing any match to "Happy%" as last line, expanding certain sections, etc). Also, all of the blog posts are about the same length - which is a dead giveaway if you don't ask it for a variable length. The script I wrote that does the query changes topics/categories at random, and assigns a random length between 2000 to 4000 words, then it does paragraph length detection and re-queries when a paragraph is not-long-enough. Does a few more things like updating the Front matter and adding some times to the Front matter (this linked blog also runs on Hugo with the hugo-coder theme by the looks of it lol) before outputting to the markdown file.
  - chubot 2y ago
    Yup, so the question is then why does this story have 56 points? I thought Hacker News readers were better than that ... "Slop" is indeed taking over the web, even Hacker News.
    - nsayoda 2y ago
      That's a very good question. I don't post mine because I just use it to drive adsense traffic - and because it's disingenuous to post autogen stuff and pass it off as your own. I honestly would have thought readers here would have been better at picking this sort of stuff out.
upon_drumhead 2y ago
I really don't understand the "User Management" example. Rather than typing `useradd foo`, you can type `user.sh add foo`! So much easier?
soraminazuki 2y ago
Also quite a few of the explanations are flat out false.
ramses0 2y ago
Plus none of this "advanced" garbage is handling quoting properly. ShellCheck would light it up like Christmas.

ethbr1 2y ago

> a strange mix of really basic stuff and true advanced suggestions, jumbled together with no apparent organization scheme Sounds very bash-ish.

chubot 2y ago

If I look at the other posts, yeah it feels very LLM-ish https://omid.dev/posts/ https://omid.dev/posts/ They are good at generating code with some stilted prose around it Also yeah the cadence and number and topics of the posts makes me suspicious -- I don't a theme or purpose, just a bunch of "content"

nsayoda 2y ago
I'm 110% certain it's ChatGPT based on the other posts. If you look at the current top three latest posts: https://omid.dev/2024/06/19/advanced-shell-scripting-techniques-automating-complex-tasks-with-bash/ https://omid.dev/2024/06/19/advanced-shell-scripting-techniq... https://omid.dev/2024/06/19/advanced-angular-change-detection-strategies-for-high-performance-applications/ https://omid.dev/2024/06/19/advanced-angular-change-detectio... https://omid.dev/2024/06/18/haskell-monads-functors-and-applicatives/ https://omid.dev/2024/06/18/haskell-monads-functors-and-appl... They all end with: "Happy coding!", "Happy scripting!", and "Happy Haskell coding!". For some reason, when you ask ChatGPT for a blog post about coding, it'll always end with "Happy coding/scripting". I run a similar blog, and there's a lot more massaging I have to do post-query to get it into a more "human-like" state (removing any match to "Happy%" as last line, expanding certain sections, etc). Also, all of the blog posts are about the same length - which is a dead giveaway if you don't ask it for a variable length. The script I wrote that does the query changes topics/categories at random, and assigns a random length between 2000 to 4000 words, then it does paragraph length detection and re-queries when a paragraph is not-long-enough. Does a few more things like updating the Front matter and adding some times to the Front matter (this linked blog also runs on Hugo with the hugo-coder theme by the looks of it lol) before outputting to the markdown file.
- chubot 2y ago
  Yup, so the question is then why does this story have 56 points? I thought Hacker News readers were better than that ... "Slop" is indeed taking over the web, even Hacker News.
  - nsayoda 2y ago
    That's a very good question. I don't post mine because I just use it to drive adsense traffic - and because it's disingenuous to post autogen stuff and pass it off as your own. I honestly would have thought readers here would have been better at picking this sort of stuff out.

upon_drumhead 2y ago

I really don't understand the "User Management" example. Rather than typing `useradd foo`, you can type `user.sh add foo`! So much easier?

soraminazuki 2y ago

Also quite a few of the explanations are flat out false.

ramses0 2y ago

Plus none of this "advanced" garbage is handling quoting properly. ShellCheck would light it up like Christmas.