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I feel like Jobs would be wielding the axe over this, and Tim Cook's head would likely be the one rolling for flubbing the release of the Vision Pro. He's meant

I feel like Jobs would be wielding the axe over this, and Tim Cook's head would likely be the one rolling for flubbing the release of the Vision Pro. He's meant to be an expert in logistics and it seems to have been a logistics fail from top to bottom. Say if Cook was CEO and a mildly-incapacitated Jobs was President, Cook would be gone by now. I think Apple were already working on VR at the time of Jobs' death – seriously it almost talks about it if you read between the lines in Isaacson's book. So I think Jobs would have hyped this to the maximum level of hyperbole like he was good at. But I think the actual product getting screwed up, released yet be totally unavailable, and now this – it's simply not usual Apple behaviour. And the car idea got canned and now this has been screwed up... and they're over two years late to the AI party and a mildly improved Siri is not worthy of a 20% jump in the stock price. I think Tim Cook really needs to go. Ok, doing a good job of keeping the iPhone goose laying the golden eggs has been fine, but that isn't the Apple we really need if the company is really going to ever do anything "insanely great" going forward.

gumby 2y ago
> I feel like Jobs would be wielding the axe over this, … for flubbing the release of the Vision Pro. Every time someone brings him up I remember the time he staged a press event in the flint auditorium and god up on stage to announce…an iPod dock with a speaker in it. I hear they sold hundreds of them! And plenty of other misfires in his tenure, though that was by far my favorite.
- gizajob 2y ago
  I'm not doubting that he was beyond misfires on a personal level, but that would be accounted for as part of his reality distortion field. He enjoyed firing mortals that weren't him though, and was fairly ruthless about doing it.
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WatchDog 2y ago
Could you elaborate on what you mean by the vision pro being a logistics failure? I don't really understand what you mean by that.
- gizajob 2y ago
  IMO the fact that it's not available around the world (although apparently this is soon about to happen) alongside the high price for a device that still needs to prove that its not a novelty, along with what must be a whopping Bill of Materials which means that even at $3500 the economics of it aren't working out that well, nor does it have the insanely great wow factor in terms of it having that lacklustre front screen show the logistics of manufacturing the thing haven't been appropriately resolved. Ok it's a first generation device, but its sheer non-appearance in the real world shows that its release wasn't properly thought out and implemented. And Apple were really in no major rush to release it, because it's not like they were in a fight with Meta even if they were perhaps quietly freaking out about the Quest. But ultimately it's a logistics failure because what is Apple's main USPs? The Apple Stores across the bloody globe – none of which outside the USA have Vision Pros to play with. Ok they're keeping it in the US for now (due to logistics reasons) but Apple is sitting on a cash mountain of how many tens of billions and it can't arrange to put a few Vision Pros in every Store in the world for kids to go in and play with?? Even if the device is "a few months away" that would be one major logistics fail. Build the hype of a device that people really need to try to understand. Get kids playing games on it and interacting with AR Pokemon (or whatever) while their parents are buying new iPhones. Apple could spend two billion dollars on manufacturing a million of these to throw everywhere and not even blink – pocket change for them, and for launching a wholly new class of product. Me saying they've flubbed it is actually being polite, as a shareholder and long term Mac luser, I think they've completely fucked it up. Do you know what I mean?
  - WatchDog 2y ago
    The first iphone was initially only available in the US, and was relatively expensive compared to the competition, however it succeeded because it was a compelling product. People lined up for hours to get an iPhone, they were in short supply. I haven’t really heard about any supply issues for the vision pro, anyone that wants one can get one. Maybe not from a local shop in certain countries, but there aren’t any big scalping margins online. The vision pro, despite being impressive from an engineering perspective, isn't a compelling product. I don't think the logistic issues will have much to do with it's overall success.

gumby 2y ago

> I feel like Jobs would be wielding the axe over this, … for flubbing the release of the Vision Pro. Every time someone brings him up I remember the time he staged a press event in the flint auditorium and god up on stage to announce…an iPod dock with a speaker in it. I hear they sold hundreds of them! And plenty of other misfires in his tenure, though that was by far my favorite.

gizajob 2y ago
I'm not doubting that he was beyond misfires on a personal level, but that would be accounted for as part of his reality distortion field. He enjoyed firing mortals that weren't him though, and was fairly ruthless about doing it.
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WatchDog 2y ago

Could you elaborate on what you mean by the vision pro being a logistics failure? I don't really understand what you mean by that.

gizajob 2y ago
IMO the fact that it's not available around the world (although apparently this is soon about to happen) alongside the high price for a device that still needs to prove that its not a novelty, along with what must be a whopping Bill of Materials which means that even at $3500 the economics of it aren't working out that well, nor does it have the insanely great wow factor in terms of it having that lacklustre front screen show the logistics of manufacturing the thing haven't been appropriately resolved. Ok it's a first generation device, but its sheer non-appearance in the real world shows that its release wasn't properly thought out and implemented. And Apple were really in no major rush to release it, because it's not like they were in a fight with Meta even if they were perhaps quietly freaking out about the Quest. But ultimately it's a logistics failure because what is Apple's main USPs? The Apple Stores across the bloody globe – none of which outside the USA have Vision Pros to play with. Ok they're keeping it in the US for now (due to logistics reasons) but Apple is sitting on a cash mountain of how many tens of billions and it can't arrange to put a few Vision Pros in every Store in the world for kids to go in and play with?? Even if the device is "a few months away" that would be one major logistics fail. Build the hype of a device that people really need to try to understand. Get kids playing games on it and interacting with AR Pokemon (or whatever) while their parents are buying new iPhones. Apple could spend two billion dollars on manufacturing a million of these to throw everywhere and not even blink – pocket change for them, and for launching a wholly new class of product. Me saying they've flubbed it is actually being polite, as a shareholder and long term Mac luser, I think they've completely fucked it up. Do you know what I mean?
- WatchDog 2y ago
  The first iphone was initially only available in the US, and was relatively expensive compared to the competition, however it succeeded because it was a compelling product. People lined up for hours to get an iPhone, they were in short supply. I haven’t really heard about any supply issues for the vision pro, anyone that wants one can get one. Maybe not from a local shop in certain countries, but there aren’t any big scalping margins online. The vision pro, despite being impressive from an engineering perspective, isn't a compelling product. I don't think the logistic issues will have much to do with it's overall success.