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It could also stand to go out of its way to try and give more prestige to people who manage to get influential papers retracted.

spamizbad 2y ago
This is already happening in academia.
- passwordoops 2y ago
  You're going to have to provide evidence, as in actual bona-fide promotions handed out, or Tenure committees expressly spelling out and counting this as a factor in their decision
HPsquared 2y ago
Unfortunately there isn't a neat mechanism like short-selling.
- supriyo-biswas 2y ago
  Income tax departments in my country give a small reward (3-5% of the amount in question) if you report tax fraud. Maybe we could have something like that, where the vigilance department receives a small amount of money paid off from the penalty imposed on the researcher with bad/fraudulent research.
  - thechao 2y ago
    See, that’s weird to me? Wouldn’t the best reward be more like 99 or 100%? The gov’t’s already out the money; the incentive is to prevent tax fraud.
    - supriyo-biswas 2y ago
      The tax department is, in fact, not "out of money" in that sense, and tries to recover the money first with some penalties added. They're incredibly empowered to conduct raids and seize property and other belongings, if it comes down to that and the sum involved is large enough.
      - NullPrefix 2y ago
        >They're incredibly empowered to conduct raids and seize property and other belongings, if it comes down to that and the sum involved is large enough. But only if that sum involved is not large enough for the owner to afford proper defense lawyers
  - t0bia_s 2y ago
    Denouncing civil disobedience is typical method for sustain totalitarian regime. Where are you from?
    - hau 2y ago
      >An award worth between 15 and 30 percent of the total proceeds that IRS collects could be paid, if the IRS moves ahead based on the information provided https://www.irs.gov/about-irs/whistleblower-office-at-a-glance https://www.irs.gov/about-irs/whistleblower-office-at-a-glan...
strangattractor 2y ago
Unfortunately 'prestige' is bestowed by the author's peers - Police internal affairs detectives don't have much prestige within the Police department.
- tomrod 2y ago
  That's not an accurate comparison, in my experience. Police operate as a thin blue line. Academics operate as jackals and hyenas in the Serengeti, and many would eviserate literally anyone if they could get another grant. Best admired from afar.
  - supriyo-biswas 2y ago
    It doesn't change the fact that internal vigilance departments are often strangled by reducing their funding (often based on the fact that they haven't done much), and causing various roadblocks by preventing information flow to these departments. The second one is a little less relevant for published research, although it could take a different form when implemented in Academia.
  - bee_rider 2y ago
    They should give these grants to near-retirement academics. Here’s 100k, hire a handful of students and settle some grudges.

spamizbad 2y ago

This is already happening in academia.

passwordoops 2y ago
You're going to have to provide evidence, as in actual bona-fide promotions handed out, or Tenure committees expressly spelling out and counting this as a factor in their decision

HPsquared 2y ago

Unfortunately there isn't a neat mechanism like short-selling.

supriyo-biswas 2y ago
Income tax departments in my country give a small reward (3-5% of the amount in question) if you report tax fraud. Maybe we could have something like that, where the vigilance department receives a small amount of money paid off from the penalty imposed on the researcher with bad/fraudulent research.
- thechao 2y ago
  See, that’s weird to me? Wouldn’t the best reward be more like 99 or 100%? The gov’t’s already out the money; the incentive is to prevent tax fraud.
  - supriyo-biswas 2y ago
    The tax department is, in fact, not "out of money" in that sense, and tries to recover the money first with some penalties added. They're incredibly empowered to conduct raids and seize property and other belongings, if it comes down to that and the sum involved is large enough.
    - NullPrefix 2y ago
      >They're incredibly empowered to conduct raids and seize property and other belongings, if it comes down to that and the sum involved is large enough. But only if that sum involved is not large enough for the owner to afford proper defense lawyers
- t0bia_s 2y ago
  Denouncing civil disobedience is typical method for sustain totalitarian regime. Where are you from?
  - hau 2y ago
    >An award worth between 15 and 30 percent of the total proceeds that IRS collects could be paid, if the IRS moves ahead based on the information provided https://www.irs.gov/about-irs/whistleblower-office-at-a-glance https://www.irs.gov/about-irs/whistleblower-office-at-a-glan...

strangattractor 2y ago

Unfortunately 'prestige' is bestowed by the author's peers - Police internal affairs detectives don't have much prestige within the Police department.

tomrod 2y ago
That's not an accurate comparison, in my experience. Police operate as a thin blue line. Academics operate as jackals and hyenas in the Serengeti, and many would eviserate literally anyone if they could get another grant. Best admired from afar.
- supriyo-biswas 2y ago
  It doesn't change the fact that internal vigilance departments are often strangled by reducing their funding (often based on the fact that they haven't done much), and causing various roadblocks by preventing information flow to these departments. The second one is a little less relevant for published research, although it could take a different form when implemented in Academia.
- bee_rider 2y ago
  They should give these grants to near-retirement academics. Here’s 100k, hire a handful of students and settle some grudges.