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While Framework's blog post and their marketplace don't have a photo of the mainboard, Deep Computing's press release [1] does. Given the "DC-ROMA" name for th
by cge 2y ago
While Framework's blog post and their marketplace don't have a photo of the mainboard, Deep Computing's press release [1] does. Given the "DC-ROMA" name for the mainboard from DC, and their DC-ROMA laptop (not DC-ROMA II) which seems to have similar specs, I would guess that this is essentially the mainboard of that laptop, in Framework form. For context on price, DC is selling the full laptop for $300.
While it's a niche product, it is great to see other companies actually developing components for the Framework platform, and more, more diverse options for components starting to appear. Yes, as people point out, this product doesn't make much sense for many people, but it doesn't have to: part of the advantage of this platform is that components don't need to appeal to a wide customer base. We are also starting to see this now with the two screen options, the speakers (choice between louder or more accurate), etc.
If, as it seems, this is going to be quite low cost, I might buy one just to play around with it. It would be easy to swap with my normal mainboard, and when not in laptop form, could go in a printed enclosure.
Looking at the photo, it of course has no M.2 for storage, as mentioned in the blog post (nrp explains that choice on Framework's forum [3]), but does look like it has one for the wifi card; the microSD slot is also visible. It also seems to have quite a large fan and cooling arrangement for a JH7110, compared to other boards with it?
Battery on the DC-ROMA appears to have been 48 Wh [2], so not enormously smaller than Framework's 61 Wh and 55 Wh options, and battery life may be comparable plus 15% - 25%.
[1]: https://deepcomputing.io/a-risc-v-world-first-independently-developed-risc-v-mainboard-for-a-framework-laptop-from-deepcomputing/ https://deepcomputing.io/a-risc-v-world-first-independently-...
[2]: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1496701-world%E2%80%99s-first-risc-v-laptop-roma-deepcomputing-chromeos/ https://linustechtips.com/topic/1496701-world%E2%80%99s-firs...
[3]: https://community.frame.work/t/introducing-a-new-risc-v-mainboard-from-deepcomputing/53144/29?u=cge https://community.frame.work/t/introducing-a-new-risc-v-main...
- roughly 2y ago> Yes, as people point out, this product doesn't make much sense for many people, but it doesn't have to: part of the advantage of this platform is that components don't need to appeal to a wide customer base. I feel like this has been the promise of the modern manufacturing era for so long, but it’s felt like all the momentum’s gone in the opposite direction - everyone chasing the most beige thing they can to try to get the largest market share. I’m excited to see more products and companies pushing against that trend, and it’s part of what I really appreciate about Framework - their product is absolutely a niche product and will always be, and they’re doing the hell out of it.
- nrp 2y agoFor context on the cooling system, it is absolutely overkill for the SoC, but to keep the project simple, DeepComputing is re-using the same heatsink and fan from our 11th Gen Intel Core Framework Laptop 13. This means that it should be able to run fairly quietly.
- geokon 2y agoDoes the ROMA actually exist? I don't see any reviews of it. In press releases it sounded like jumble of meaningless buzz words (crypto nfts riscv.. etc.) https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/02/roma-linux-laptop-to-feature-quad-core-risc-v-soc-support-web3-nft-cryptocurrencies-etc/ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/07/02/roma-linux-laptop-to... Weird they didn't use the chip from the DC ROMA II - though that laptop is a rebadge of a different laptop from the chip manufacturer itself https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/04/30/muse-book-laptop-spacemit-k1-octa-core-risc-v-ai-processor-16gb-ram/ https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/04/30/muse-book-laptop-spa... I'm impressed they managed to get press releases from framework and canonical in the space of a week bc they seem like a shell company https://canonical.com/blog/worlds-first-risc-v-laptop-gets-a-massive-upgrade-and-equips-with-ubuntu https://canonical.com/blog/worlds-first-risc-v-laptop-gets-a...