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I’d say they might need one in Europe where they are allowed to walk home from school alone, in case something happens. But in the US where school buses take ki
by nequo 2y ago
I’d say they might need one in Europe where they are allowed to walk home from school alone, in case something happens. But in the US where school buses take kids almost door to door,[1] there’s no clear need for phones.
Edit: [1] I am simplifying here and ignoring a lot of geographic variability.
- micromacrofoot 2y agoyou stow the phone away in a locker when you get to school, take it out when you leave
- dv_dt 2y agoLockers are not really secure in my experience w/ kids in high school
- micromacrofoot 2y agoimprove lockers or don't bring a phone you'd care to lose, not everything has to be perfect
- DiggyJohnson 2y agoKids will lock their lockers if phones are being stolen.
- dv_dt 2y agoIt's not kids neglecting to lock their lockers, it's that if it becomes known that hundred to thousand dollar phones are in lockers, they will get opened and stolen. I think setting clear policy with personal expectations of no phones out in classrooms, with personal repercussions of not following that policy is fine. No need to use bans to make schools any more prison like than they already are.
- micromacrofoot 2y ago> I think setting clear policy with personal expectations of no phones out in classrooms, with personal repercussions of not following that policy is fine. When's the last time you've been in a high school, it's like giving an addict a pile of cocaine and telling them to wait until after work to use it.
- dv_dt 2y agoMost recently, I have been involved on the board of a high school PTA with constant volunteering for events over the time my own kids went. Before that i also did pta for elementary and middle school. For high school, two kids, four years apart so back to back over eight years - my youngest is just starting college; I feel i have a good amount of experience. The current generation of kids are very cognizant of healthy phone discipline - moreso than many adults imho. When you set policy, clear expectations and crisp repercussions treating the kids as equals, you get better results than treating kids like addicts with medical problems or subhumans for that matter. You very much receive the respect you put out; and bans are imho disrespectful of personal responsibility and autonomy.
- gensym 2y agoWhere we live (in Southern California), the school buses don't go door-to-door. My daughter's nearest stop is about 1 mile from our home. She could make that walk without a phone, but we appreciate knowing she can contact us if necessary.
- DiggyJohnson 2y agoFWIW the door-to-door schoolbus service is pretty rare and vastly over-represented in our media. Not trying to be argumentative, but I always think about how fun and convenient that would be when I see it in television or movies. It's mostly a relic of the past.