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A lot of people "feel" fine but blood work shows they're insulin resistant, have various deficiencies, or are loaded with cortisol. Going by "feeling" really do

A lot of people "feel" fine but blood work shows they're insulin resistant, have various deficiencies, or are loaded with cortisol. Going by "feeling" really doesn't work. Also, the evidence against a vegetarian diet is overwhelming.

subsection1h 14y ago
Also, the evidence against a vegetarian diet is overwhelming. If the totality of evidence currently available clearly indicates that vegetarian diets result in premature death, it should be very easy for you to link to a dozen or so clinical studies that have produced such evidence. Please proceed.
ktizo 14y ago
the evidence against a vegetarian diet is overwhelming Someone better warn the Buddhist monks, they've been at it a while and if only they'd known they might have lived a bit longer.
- gurkendoktor 14y ago
  There are many vegetarian Buddhists here in Taiwan and their food is sadly well-known for being overly greasy (as to add flavor). It doesn't help that the local Buddhists avoid onion and garlic, two staples in non-vegetarian local food. It's considered normal to eat supplements, but that's of course a recent phenomenon. I'm not saying it's all bad (I'm mostly vegetarian), but the studies are all over the place as with everything in nutrition :)
  - Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
    There are so many varieties of vegetarian diet the term is a little meaningless in terms of understanding nutrition. I've been vegetarian for about 20 years, I eat a lot of fresh veg, not much fried stuff, not much processed stuff, try and make sure I mix things up and get some protein. Broadly speaking I think I've got a pretty good diet. But I also know vegetarian's who are massively overweight, eat crap (and too much of it), drink too much and so on. As a broad group I suspect vegetarian's eat better but I think that's more likely to be linked to the fact that this is a group of people who have thought about what they eat as much as anything inherent in the lack of meat.
    - gurkendoktor 14y ago
      Right. Studies about vegetarians could only uncover those deficiencies that would affect all veg*ns, but I've never seen any that did.
      - Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
        And that would be interesting (and I think they do exist - I'm curious about the poster above saying that they show it's not healthy because my understanding is precisely the opposite), just I think that there are other factors you need to control for to really understand it.
Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
"the evidence against a vegetarian diet is overwhelming." Pics or it never happened. I mean citations please.

subsection1h 14y ago

Also, the evidence against a vegetarian diet is overwhelming. If the totality of evidence currently available clearly indicates that vegetarian diets result in premature death, it should be very easy for you to link to a dozen or so clinical studies that have produced such evidence. Please proceed.

ktizo 14y ago

the evidence against a vegetarian diet is overwhelming Someone better warn the Buddhist monks, they've been at it a while and if only they'd known they might have lived a bit longer.

gurkendoktor 14y ago
There are many vegetarian Buddhists here in Taiwan and their food is sadly well-known for being overly greasy (as to add flavor). It doesn't help that the local Buddhists avoid onion and garlic, two staples in non-vegetarian local food. It's considered normal to eat supplements, but that's of course a recent phenomenon. I'm not saying it's all bad (I'm mostly vegetarian), but the studies are all over the place as with everything in nutrition :)
- Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
  There are so many varieties of vegetarian diet the term is a little meaningless in terms of understanding nutrition. I've been vegetarian for about 20 years, I eat a lot of fresh veg, not much fried stuff, not much processed stuff, try and make sure I mix things up and get some protein. Broadly speaking I think I've got a pretty good diet. But I also know vegetarian's who are massively overweight, eat crap (and too much of it), drink too much and so on. As a broad group I suspect vegetarian's eat better but I think that's more likely to be linked to the fact that this is a group of people who have thought about what they eat as much as anything inherent in the lack of meat.
  - gurkendoktor 14y ago
    Right. Studies about vegetarians could only uncover those deficiencies that would affect all veg*ns, but I've never seen any that did.
    - Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
      And that would be interesting (and I think they do exist - I'm curious about the poster above saying that they show it's not healthy because my understanding is precisely the opposite), just I think that there are other factors you need to control for to really understand it.

Tyrannosaurs 14y ago

"the evidence against a vegetarian diet is overwhelming." Pics or it never happened. I mean citations please.