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So per the article the PM said: > “When I first met President Xi Jinping, I was attracted to him because President Xi is one of the few outstanding leaders who

So per the article the PM said: > “When I first met President Xi Jinping, I was attracted to him because President Xi is one of the few outstanding leaders who talks about civilisation. In a sense, he is unique,” he was quoted as saying. But last year we had a headline like "Malaysia rejects new China map claiming entire South China Sea": * https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/31/malaysia-rejects-new-china-map-claiming-entire-south-china-sea https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/31/malaysia-rejects-ne... Curious to see how the ocean dispute will play into this.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Curious to see how the ocean dispute will play into this India and China were shooting at each other over long-disputed borders a few years ago. BRICS was never a security pact. (To the extent it means anything, it’s analogous to the OECD.) Hell, it’s easier for me in America to do business with either China or India than it is for them to do business with each other.
- boffinAudio 2y ago
  >Hell, it’s easier for me in America to do business with either China or India than it is for them to do business with each other. I don't see how you can make that claim from such a distance.
  - chipdart 2y ago
    > I don't see how you can make that claim from such a distance. The distance matters little if you're comparing reality with unbelievable claims that don't hold up to the fastest scrutiny.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > don't see how you can make that claim from such a distance I am travelling to India on a tourist visa in November and again in December. (I have family in India.) That literally hasn’t been possible from China for two years [1]. It’s also easier to do money transfers between China and India through the U.S., because both have capital controls and both flag large transactions with the other. (I do more business in India than China, but there aren’t many hurdles.) [1] https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/india-tourist-visa-chinese-national-suspension-retaliation-1941279-2022-04-24 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/india-tourist-visa-chi...
  - alephnerd 2y ago
    He's right. India's ED has de facto been raiding Chinese businesses and forcing them to divest to Indian ownership after 2020. For example, MG Motors India is now majority owned by JSW Group, Huawei India (once Huawei's largest R&D hub and their main chip design hub) was forced out of India after the Doklam standoff, and all the Chinese mobile manufacturers were harragued by the ED and sold their assets to Samsung, LG, Apple affiliates, etc.
    - unmole 2y ago
      > Huawei India (once Huawei's largest R&D hub and their main chip design hub) was forced out of India after the Doklam standoff Yeah, no. Huawei Bangalore was tiny in comparison to Dongguan, Beijing and Shenzhen. And far from being the main chip design hub, barely any hardware specific work happened in Bangalore. Source: Worked for Huawei Bangalore for over 6 years.
throwaway4good 2y ago
Former Malysia PM Dr Mahathir Mohamad wrote the following on Twitter on the Ukraine war: https://twitter.com/chedetofficial/status/1628981880677863425 https://twitter.com/chedetofficial/status/162898188067786342... In particular the follow up (European's love of war) is hilarious and not an uncommon view in that part of the world.
- gizajob 2y ago
  And Malaysia is Muslim because???
  - throwaway4good 2y ago
    I guess it spread peacefully … the British on the other hand …
    - gizajob 2y ago
      Spread rubber, tea, and contracts wherever we went. I’d guess the Malaysians and Singaporeans are happy for the global leg-up caused by having English integrated into their education systems. And for the roads. And the sanitation. And the public health. And the aqueduct.
      - throwaway4good 2y ago
        And the opium trade. Lots of great jobs there.
        gizajob 2y ago
        I hear it’s very morish.
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  - jhanschoo 2y ago
    Islam in SEA spread due to proselytization and trade and its importance in SEA economies, and not by foreign conquest and forced conversion.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> Curious to see how the ocean dispute will play into this India and China were shooting at each other over long-disputed borders a few years ago. BRICS was never a security pact. (To the extent it means anything, it’s analogous to the OECD.) Hell, it’s easier for me in America to do business with either China or India than it is for them to do business with each other.

boffinAudio 2y ago
>Hell, it’s easier for me in America to do business with either China or India than it is for them to do business with each other. I don't see how you can make that claim from such a distance.
- chipdart 2y ago
  > I don't see how you can make that claim from such a distance. The distance matters little if you're comparing reality with unbelievable claims that don't hold up to the fastest scrutiny.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > don't see how you can make that claim from such a distance I am travelling to India on a tourist visa in November and again in December. (I have family in India.) That literally hasn’t been possible from China for two years [1]. It’s also easier to do money transfers between China and India through the U.S., because both have capital controls and both flag large transactions with the other. (I do more business in India than China, but there aren’t many hurdles.) [1] https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/india-tourist-visa-chinese-national-suspension-retaliation-1941279-2022-04-24 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/india-tourist-visa-chi...
- alephnerd 2y ago
  He's right. India's ED has de facto been raiding Chinese businesses and forcing them to divest to Indian ownership after 2020. For example, MG Motors India is now majority owned by JSW Group, Huawei India (once Huawei's largest R&D hub and their main chip design hub) was forced out of India after the Doklam standoff, and all the Chinese mobile manufacturers were harragued by the ED and sold their assets to Samsung, LG, Apple affiliates, etc.
  - unmole 2y ago
    > Huawei India (once Huawei's largest R&D hub and their main chip design hub) was forced out of India after the Doklam standoff Yeah, no. Huawei Bangalore was tiny in comparison to Dongguan, Beijing and Shenzhen. And far from being the main chip design hub, barely any hardware specific work happened in Bangalore. Source: Worked for Huawei Bangalore for over 6 years.

throwaway4good 2y ago

Former Malysia PM Dr Mahathir Mohamad wrote the following on Twitter on the Ukraine war: https://twitter.com/chedetofficial/status/1628981880677863425 https://twitter.com/chedetofficial/status/162898188067786342... In particular the follow up (European's love of war) is hilarious and not an uncommon view in that part of the world.

gizajob 2y ago
And Malaysia is Muslim because???
- throwaway4good 2y ago
  I guess it spread peacefully … the British on the other hand …
  - gizajob 2y ago
    Spread rubber, tea, and contracts wherever we went. I’d guess the Malaysians and Singaporeans are happy for the global leg-up caused by having English integrated into their education systems. And for the roads. And the sanitation. And the public health. And the aqueduct.
    - throwaway4good 2y ago
      And the opium trade. Lots of great jobs there.
      - gizajob 2y ago
        I hear it’s very morish.
  - deleted 2y ago
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- jhanschoo 2y ago
  Islam in SEA spread due to proselytization and trade and its importance in SEA economies, and not by foreign conquest and forced conversion.