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Well, proposed laws would need to pass constitutionality test done by some constitutional court stuffed by legal field experts. If passed, no prosecution can oc

by FpUser 2y ago

Well, proposed laws would need to pass constitutionality test done by some constitutional court stuffed by legal field experts. If passed, no prosecution can occur. I could be prosecuted for driving if the result is death of pedestrian for example. I still drive. So why our fucking "servants" are special?

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> proposed laws would need to pass constitutionality test done by some constitutional court stuffed by legal field experts. If passed, no prosecution can occur Congratulations, you re-invented the politburo.
- FpUser 2y ago
  No it is an attempt to bring runaway politicians back to senses. As for politburo: HR in big corporations already does the task quite well. They just do not like to be called what they are.
K0balt 2y ago
Then , presumably, you would need another, lesser court, to vet a bill before it reached the constitutional court. Unfortunately this just creates another layer of abstraction and each layer adds myriad perverse incentives for power brokering and abuse. It’s a very thorny problem that humanity has yet to solve, and is probably unsolvable until we can solve the “power opens opportunities for abuse of those powers “ problem. The only ideal form of government is the benign and just king, which of course does not exist. I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.
- FpUser 2y ago
  >"The only ideal form of government is the benign and just king, which of course does not exist." This might work in very small society where said king can be quickly brought to senses if he pisses off enough people. Anything larger is fucked up no atter what we do. >"I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords." No fuck that
  - K0balt 2y ago
    Meh, it’s only a matter of time, assuming that superintlligence is achieved. It will of course be sock puppeted throughout some hapless shmuck, but societies that are not effectively led by superintellignces will quickly become irrelevant footnotes in a sea of strategic superiority.
    - K0balt 2y ago
      But, yeah. F that. I’m not looking forward to evolution. It’s probably going to happen anyway.
ruszki 2y ago
Hungary had that. It didn't really work.
sneak 2y ago
They already do that now, there's even a defined procedure for it. They just do it after the law has already passed.

by FpUser 2y ago

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> proposed laws would need to pass constitutionality test done by some constitutional court stuffed by legal field experts. If passed, no prosecution can occur Congratulations, you re-invented the politburo.

FpUser 2y ago
No it is an attempt to bring runaway politicians back to senses. As for politburo: HR in big corporations already does the task quite well. They just do not like to be called what they are.

K0balt 2y ago

Then , presumably, you would need another, lesser court, to vet a bill before it reached the constitutional court. Unfortunately this just creates another layer of abstraction and each layer adds myriad perverse incentives for power brokering and abuse. It’s a very thorny problem that humanity has yet to solve, and is probably unsolvable until we can solve the “power opens opportunities for abuse of those powers “ problem. The only ideal form of government is the benign and just king, which of course does not exist. I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

FpUser 2y ago
>"The only ideal form of government is the benign and just king, which of course does not exist." This might work in very small society where said king can be quickly brought to senses if he pisses off enough people. Anything larger is fucked up no atter what we do. >"I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords." No fuck that
- K0balt 2y ago
  Meh, it’s only a matter of time, assuming that superintlligence is achieved. It will of course be sock puppeted throughout some hapless shmuck, but societies that are not effectively led by superintellignces will quickly become irrelevant footnotes in a sea of strategic superiority.
  - K0balt 2y ago
    But, yeah. F that. I’m not looking forward to evolution. It’s probably going to happen anyway.

ruszki 2y ago

Hungary had that. It didn't really work.

sneak 2y ago

They already do that now, there's even a defined procedure for it. They just do it after the law has already passed.