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Are the recent shifts in electoral preferences the reason for the push? As a backhanded way to surveil those politicians and citizens with the "wrong views" on
by shrubble 2y ago
Are the recent shifts in electoral preferences the reason for the push?
As a backhanded way to surveil those politicians and citizens with the "wrong views" on remigration, etc.?
- k__ 2y agoIf anything, such ideas are usually to appease people who are in favor of deportation.
- gillesjacobs 2y agoEdit: well like someone pointed out instead of party programmes and declarations, we should look at past voting behaviour on the 2021 vote: https://mepwatch.eu/9/vote.html?v=134463&eugroup=ID https://mepwatch.eu/9/vote.html?v=134463&eugroup=ID Seems like only the Greens, The Left and Afd within ID were against that first version of Chat Control. ___ This isn't the case though: the right-wing Identity and Democracy faction is explicitly pro-privacy, digital rights and against Chat Control. - https://id-party.eu/program/ https://id-party.eu/program/ (ID Party Official Site) - https://idgroup.eu/news/online-censorship-is-a-threat-to-eur https://idgroup.eu/news/online-censorship-is-a-threat-to-eur... (ID Group News) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_and_Democracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_and_Democracy (Wikipedia Overview) - https://id-party.eu/declaration-of-antwerp/ https://id-party.eu/declaration-of-antwerp/ (ID Party Official Site) The ID group is opposed to EU-wide surveillance measures, and promises to protecting individual privacy and national sovereignty. Now ECR is also sceptical and have expressed concerns, though their voting record on privacy related legislation is more inconsistent, I believe.
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 2y agoThose people would be retarded if they think it won't used to find, identify, and prosecute them.
- andrepd 2y agoYes, the push for electronic surveillance that's been ongoing for at least 15 years was caused by last week's election result... Sheesh
- account42 2y agoThe shift in voter opinion didn't happen last week, that was only when the most recent data point was recorded.
- andrepd 2y agoHardly to do with it unless you're deep into some conspiracy theory I'm not familiar with. Just notice it's mostly left-wing parties voting against chat control.
- Barrin92 2y agoJust because people here might not be aware of the term "remigration". It is a Neo-Nazi phrase, popularised recently by the German AfD, that includes the deportation of citizens, to their "country of racial origin". There is no "right" view on this and the use of the language is revealing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remigration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remigration
- h4x0rr 2y agoPeople love calling everything nazi
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoWould you prefer a different word? Facist also works. Xenophobe, racist, hater, etc also work. "Migration critic" is probably a more neutral / politically correct word.
- marcusverus 2y agoLeftists threw these words around for so long that they are utterly devoid of the emotional power they once had. Now the backlash is coming, but most of the leftists on the internet--who've spent the last two decades hurling insults instead of engaging in good faith--are so unpracticed as to be largely incapable of engaging in good faith. So they just throw around the old words and wonder why they don't work anymore.
- shrubble 2y agoYour own link mentions it is used in multiple European countries since the 1960s, so its use therefore pre-dates the AfD.
- Gasp0de 2y agoRemigration is a code word used by right wing extremists to say deportation, at least in Germany. I wouldn't use it as if it were a thing.
- marcusverus 2y agoSo true. Only the left is allowed to play word games vis-a-vis illegal aliens. I mean illegal immigrants. I mean undocumented immigrants. I mean migrants. I mean undocumented citizens. It's downright dangerous when the right does it!