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> I have never seen them referred to as human. I have never seen anything else. But then in French, they are called Neandertal men and Denisova men. So pretty
by seszett 2y ago
> I have never seen them referred to as human.
I have never seen anything else. But then in French, they are called Neandertal men and Denisova men. So pretty clearly humans.
- Y_Y 2y agoI think it's typical in non-technical English to use "humans" to refer to homo sapiens only, unless you qualify it, like "archaic/early humans". Without additional context I wouldn't assume somebody talking about humans meant to include e.g. Neanderthals.
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- skywhopper 2y agoQualifications like, “600k years ago”? That’s pretty clearly talking about the humans of 600k years ago. “Early humans” are still humans.
- Y_Y 2y ago> “Early humans” are still humans. I respectfully disagree, as started in my earlier post. It would be nice if human language worked like that, but it does not always. A "stone frigate" isn't a boat, an "iron lung" isn't a respiratory organ.
- goatlover 2y agoThose things aren't closely related biologically, so not a good analogy. "Human" isn't a precise biological category, it's just based on how the word is used, unlike homo sapiens. And some people, including scientists, use it to mean closely related species of hominids. Or hominids generally.
- Y_Y 2y agoI agree? I didn't know close biological relation was a prerequisite for a good analogy, but I'll gladly oblige: vampire squid, velvet ant, slipper lobster, naked ape.