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When I took Dan Freed's algebraic topology course, one time he asked us if two spaces were the same. Then he looked at us for a moment and said that actually th

When I took Dan Freed's algebraic topology course, one time he asked us if two spaces were the same. Then he looked at us for a moment and said that actually that was a "Bill Clinton question: the answer depends on what the meaning of the word is is".

082349872349872 2y ago
There's a (n improper) coarsest universe where anything is the same as everything else. (which reminds me of the buddhist monk at the hot dog stand: — Make me one with everything — Here ya go bud — Uhhh ... I gave you a twenty? — Change is an illusion ) EDIT: and Ireneo Funes (the Memorious) inhabits that other improper, finest, universe where nothing is the same as anything else. (OnlyNaNs?)
- vinnyvichy 2y ago
  Btw, the following might come across as a little Borgean.. (Author of your Wikisourced cetacean) https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E4%BD%9A%E5%90%8D/37139#:~:text=%E4%BD%9A%E5%90%8D%E6%98%AF%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E8%AF%8D%E8%AF%AD,%E6%84%BF%E9%80%8F%E6%BC%8F%E5%A7%93%E5%90%8D%E7%9A%84%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%82 https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E4%BD%9A%E5%90%8D/37139#:~:tex... (Not a Name) 与鬼神通 "Converse with gods and spectres" https://www.feirao.com/chengyu/32963S.html https://www.feirao.com/chengyu/32963S.html
  - vinnyvichy 2y ago
    My guess is that your cetacean originates from the Sui-Tang under a nihilizing influence of Buddhist rationalizations. "No creation without injury, no injury without creation." (My interpretation, cf the Japanese distillation) https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%89%B5#Japanese https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%89%B5#Japanese Compare with (note element of chance) https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/incido https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/incido More relevant to thread https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/pare https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/pare (Vs https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/par#Latin https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/par#Latin)
    - vinnyvichy 2y ago
      https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0... Note the gender, as well as the Korean Mudang,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_shamanism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_shamanism Chinese tongji (manifestly not gendered) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongji_(spirit_medium) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongji_(spirit_medium) (& Old nordic seiðkona apophenically Proto-tungusic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism#Terminology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism#Terminology
      - vinnyvichy 2y ago
        https://languagehat.com/kolmogorov/ https://languagehat.com/kolmogorov/ For the folklorists, the comments-readers, the invertebrate meme-chasers >If we're not in pain, we're not alive https://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm https://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm
        BalinKing 2y ago
        Maybe I'm totally lost, but this thread of self-replies makes me suspect a Markov chain generated them or something like that. The same is true for some—but not all—of your other comments, which feels really weird to me. Of course, maybe I'm way off base, and what you're saying makes total sense and is just going over my head. I wonder if dang (or another mod) has already seen this....
        082349872349872 2y ago
        I suspect vinnyvichy may have been "conversing with gods and ghosts" ... but until I manage to translate that page I shan't be sure :-)
        vinnyvichy 2y ago
        Indeed I would have most preferred "spirits & spectres" because that one has a neutral connotation in Chinese. The referent of your 三殺法, "kill the buddha-spirit, kill your demised-forebears"《临济录》(written back when Taoism had not been fully differentiated from Buddhism) was way more suicidal in ideation.. The heart of kenshin (or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiyuki_(manga) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiyuki_(manga)): https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/32380940?utm_id=0 https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/32380940?utm_id=0 https://academic.oup.com/book/38937/chapter-abstract/338123182?redirectedFrom=fulltext https://academic.oup.com/book/38937/chapter-abstract/3381231...
ysofunny 2y ago
whenever peoples ponder what the meaning of "is" is, the discussion eventually turns into questioning the meaning of "what" what is "is"? — to know what is "what"?

082349872349872 2y ago

There's a (n improper) coarsest universe where anything is the same as everything else. (which reminds me of the buddhist monk at the hot dog stand: — Make me one with everything — Here ya go bud — Uhhh ... I gave you a twenty? — Change is an illusion ) EDIT: and Ireneo Funes (the Memorious) inhabits that other improper, finest, universe where nothing is the same as anything else. (OnlyNaNs?)

vinnyvichy 2y ago
Btw, the following might come across as a little Borgean.. (Author of your Wikisourced cetacean) https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E4%BD%9A%E5%90%8D/37139#:~:text=%E4%BD%9A%E5%90%8D%E6%98%AF%E4%B8%80%E4%B8%AA%E6%B1%89%E8%AF%AD%E8%AF%8D%E8%AF%AD,%E6%84%BF%E9%80%8F%E6%BC%8F%E5%A7%93%E5%90%8D%E7%9A%84%E4%BA%BA%E3%80%82 https://baike.baidu.com/item/%E4%BD%9A%E5%90%8D/37139#:~:tex... (Not a Name) 与鬼神通 "Converse with gods and spectres" https://www.feirao.com/chengyu/32963S.html https://www.feirao.com/chengyu/32963S.html
- vinnyvichy 2y ago
  My guess is that your cetacean originates from the Sui-Tang under a nihilizing influence of Buddhist rationalizations. "No creation without injury, no injury without creation." (My interpretation, cf the Japanese distillation) https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%89%B5#Japanese https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E5%89%B5#Japanese Compare with (note element of chance) https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/incido https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/incido More relevant to thread https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/pare https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/pare (Vs https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/par#Latin https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/par#Latin)
  - vinnyvichy 2y ago
    https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0%BD https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B3%D0%B0%D0... Note the gender, as well as the Korean Mudang,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_shamanism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_shamanism Chinese tongji (manifestly not gendered) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongji_(spirit_medium) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongji_(spirit_medium) (& Old nordic seiðkona apophenically Proto-tungusic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism#Terminology https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism#Terminology
    - vinnyvichy 2y ago
      https://languagehat.com/kolmogorov/ https://languagehat.com/kolmogorov/ For the folklorists, the comments-readers, the invertebrate meme-chasers >If we're not in pain, we're not alive https://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm https://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm
      - BalinKing 2y ago
        Maybe I'm totally lost, but this thread of self-replies makes me suspect a Markov chain generated them or something like that. The same is true for some—but not all—of your other comments, which feels really weird to me. Of course, maybe I'm way off base, and what you're saying makes total sense and is just going over my head. I wonder if dang (or another mod) has already seen this....
        082349872349872 2y ago
        I suspect vinnyvichy may have been "conversing with gods and ghosts" ... but until I manage to translate that page I shan't be sure :-)
        vinnyvichy 2y ago
        Indeed I would have most preferred "spirits & spectres" because that one has a neutral connotation in Chinese. The referent of your 三殺法, "kill the buddha-spirit, kill your demised-forebears"《临济录》(written back when Taoism had not been fully differentiated from Buddhism) was way more suicidal in ideation.. The heart of kenshin (or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiyuki_(manga) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saiyuki_(manga)): https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/32380940?utm_id=0 https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/32380940?utm_id=0 https://academic.oup.com/book/38937/chapter-abstract/338123182?redirectedFrom=fulltext https://academic.oup.com/book/38937/chapter-abstract/3381231...

ysofunny 2y ago

whenever peoples ponder what the meaning of "is" is, the discussion eventually turns into questioning the meaning of "what" what is "is"? — to know what is "what"?