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> They didn't build the Utah Data Center because of their extremely limited amount of data. I love that people point to one of the smallest NSA data centers as

by mike_d 2y ago

> They didn't build the Utah Data Center because of their extremely limited amount of data. I love that people point to one of the smallest NSA data centers as if its going to prove some sort of point. Regardless, this is exactly the kind of whataboutism that I am talking about. Every government collects all the data it can. The difference is that the NSA targets foreign governments and terror organizations. The Chinese government targets the same but also goes after their citizens, foreign citizens, foreign corporations, etc.

segasaturn 2y ago
>The difference is that the NSA targets foreign governments and terror organizations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOVEINT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOVEINT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_global_surveillance_disclosures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_global_surveillance_discl... Sorry, but you seem a little naive. I recommend reading up on the US domestic surveillance program that the government was caught red handed engaging in.
- mike_d 2y ago
  > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOVEINT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOVEINT We have almost a million people holding a TS or higher clearance, and have on average one incident a year of someone attempting to spy on a spouse or love interest, to which they get rolled up in their regular poly. So basically not a problem at all. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disclosures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disc... I never denied that the IC spies on foreign governments and terror organizations. In fact, we are really fucking good at it. You can't query or access domestic communications or those of USPER without review by the FISA courts and high level approval.
ziddoap 2y ago
>The difference is that the NSA targets foreign governments and terror organizations. The Chinese government targets the same but also goes after their citizens, foreign citizens, foreign corporations, etc. Thanks for the laugh, this was one of the funnier things I've read in awhile.

by mike_d 2y ago

segasaturn 2y ago

>The difference is that the NSA targets foreign governments and terror organizations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOVEINT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOVEINT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_global_surveillance_disclosures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_global_surveillance_discl... Sorry, but you seem a little naive. I recommend reading up on the US domestic surveillance program that the government was caught red handed engaging in.

mike_d 2y ago
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOVEINT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOVEINT We have almost a million people holding a TS or higher clearance, and have on average one incident a year of someone attempting to spy on a spouse or love interest, to which they get rolled up in their regular poly. So basically not a problem at all. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disclosures https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010s_global_surveillance_disc... I never denied that the IC spies on foreign governments and terror organizations. In fact, we are really fucking good at it. You can't query or access domestic communications or those of USPER without review by the FISA courts and high level approval.

ziddoap 2y ago

>The difference is that the NSA targets foreign governments and terror organizations. The Chinese government targets the same but also goes after their citizens, foreign citizens, foreign corporations, etc. Thanks for the laugh, this was one of the funnier things I've read in awhile.