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It’s fascinating to think about the number of PUs (procedural units) it takes to make a modern tool. Something as simple as a modern hammer must number in the t
by johnnylambada 2y ago
It’s fascinating to think about the number of PUs (procedural units) it takes to make a modern tool. Something as simple as a modern hammer must number in the thousands and a mobile phone in the millions or billions.
- levocardia 2y agoThat idea is pretty similar to "assembly theory" no? In the sense of how much information or evolution was necessary to generate some artifact, be it a benzene molecule, a stone tool, or an iphone
- visarga 2y agoIt took humans 300k years, all of us, our collective output to reach this point. Yet people insist on comparing a human who is part of society with a LLM alone, who doesn't even have search, and very limited contexts, just closed book mode remembering.
- lifeofguenter 2y agoWho is comparing LLM with Humans? As far as I can tell nobody is. LLM is a great tool that helps our brains same way a hammer helps our hands.
- namaria 2y agoYou seem to be hallucinating a strawman
- jstanley 2y agoWrong thread, perhaps?
- adolph 2y agoThe same came to my mind. I think there may be some elements of assembly which have to do with biological process that don’t apply to “accumulation of technological knowledge,” but I need to reread it. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06600-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06600-9 Here, we introduce AT, which addresses these challenges by describing how novelty generation and selection can operate in forward-evolving processes. The framework of AT allows us to predict features of new discoveries during selection, and to quantify how much selection was necessary to produce observed objects, without having to prespecify individuals or units of selection.
- w-ll 2y agoBillions of transistors in a smart phone, and those took many^many machines to build
- fsckboy 2y agothe genius of photolithography (and its descendents) is that each chip is printed all at once, all the transistors at once over several steps for the several layers. This is what makes chips inexpensive.
- vasco 2y agoThe genius of photolithography is many things, I wouldn't say the wafer process is any more special than the statistical models that can predict where a nozzle needs to point to lay substract with more precision than the nozzle itself can provide or a number of other important inventions there.
- fsckboy 2y agousing the same process that was used to make a single transistor (and package and attach connecting leads to it)... ...to make an entire circuit (and package and attach connecting leads to it)... is the invention of the integrated circuit and photolithography made that possible. It subsequently had a large number of important follow on innovations, but which were conceptually proper subsets of it. had some other process made integrated circuits possible, that other process would have subsequently had many important innovations. what flowed from photolithographic chip making is still flowing today.
- NL807 2y agoThe factories that build them is like something out of a sci-fi film. Quite mind blowing.
- Cthulhu_ 2y agoThere was a great article posted the other day that explained in detail but also followable terms all the processes that go into making a chip. I didn't realise that a single wafer can spend months in the production line.
- alun 2y agoYou might find the essay "I, Pencil" by Leonard Read interesting. It's told from the point of view of a pencil who talks about the complexity of his own creation and all of the components involved in the process
- nexuist 2y agoThat essay also loosely inspired the opening scene of Lord of War, which showcases the journey of a bullet from an underground mine to an Eastern European factory all the way into the head of an African child soldier.
- fakedang 2y agoLoved that scene. Reminds me of all the "autobiography" stories we had to write for various items such as cars, horses, computers and pens, back in school.
- brazzy 2y agoThere's also Thomas Thwaites' "building a toaster... from scratch" project that goes into the details of how even an extremely simple appliance involves materials and processes that are effectively impossible for a single person to replicate (spoiler: he has to give up and "cheat" on some things).
- Anotheroneagain 2y agoIt's just ideological drivel. People never had any difficulty to cooperate on such level.
- etskinner 2y agoIs "procedural units" a commonly used term? I couldn't find any info in a quick search. I'd love to hear more about the concept