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> I was pointing out that your original argument makes no sense, because of what it would mean if you applied it to humans. And I explained why this equivalenc
by maxbond 2y ago
> I was pointing out that your original argument makes no sense, because of what it would mean if you applied it to humans.
And I explained why this equivalence doesn't hold in my view. You have made no attempt to justify it. So why should I buy it? Are you obliged to buy every proposition I put forward? Obviously not, or we wouldn't be having this discussion.
> [It] in no way relates to your original [argument] and does nothing to rescue it.
My argument is only endangered if the equivalence holds - and again, I haven't bought it. You seem to feel entitled to my adopting your perspective, and to respond assuming your equivalence is valid. But you have to earn that by putting forward a good argument.
Instead of trying to convince me or explore our disagreement, you declare that I violated unstated terms and that the discussion cannot proceed. This is nonsensical.
Since it's clear you aren't willing to give me a fair hearing, I encourage you to show this conversation to someone you respect and trust to be honest with you, so that they can explain this to you in a way that will register.
- lmm 2y ago> And I explained why this equivalence doesn't hold in my view. No you didn't. > Instead of trying to convince me or explore our disagreement, you declare that I violated unstated terms and that the discussion cannot proceed. No I didn't. > Since it's clear you aren't willing to give me a fair hearing, I encourage you to show this conversation to someone you respect and trust to be honest with you, so that they can explain this to you in a way that will register. Right back at you.
- maxbond 2y ago> No you didn't. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40703486 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40703486 If I was unclear - the equivalence doesn't hold because one of these are moral entities and the other isn't. > No I didn't. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40703471 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40703471 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40711859 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40711859 > Right back at you. Fair enough. I was already planning on it, so I'm happy to.