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This is propaganda belittling social causes and ignoring societal decline. Not everything gets better always. Why is this on HN?

WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
Because it was posted by someone who didn't know (or did know) that the mag is wallpaper for The Manhattan Institute. ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Journal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Journal ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Casey#Return_to_private_work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Casey#Return_to_pri...
- righthand 2y ago
  Reading it for me it is clearly propaganda. I didn’t even know it’s link to politics until I read HN comments. The targeted social causes and logic hoop-jumping alone in the article is a pretty obvious sign IMO.
- thoradam 2y ago
  It is true that I don’t this publication. I also don’t know the author or what The Manhattan Institute is. In general unless a piece of text is asking me to take something on faith or I am unable to reason with it I don’t care in the slightest who wrote it, where it was published or what their affiliations are.
  - WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
    > In general unless a piece of text is asking me to take something on faith The longer I live the more I realize I don't know. For me it means I have to have some trust in the people communicating with me - that they're operating in good faith. More so when their comms are persuasive arguments. Without my trust + their forthrightness, I have to expend significant time and energy parsing and vetting their statements - for little practical benefit.
aprilthird2021 2y ago
It can be a flawed analysis without being propaganda and ignoring societal decline (as the definition of decline and progress itself is debatable). I do think the fact that humans build up careers and aren't just going to roll over and stop working or switch careers when it would be prudent for society is a good thing to note. Just as career activists move from one cause to another, so too do programmers
- defrost 2y ago
  Articles can be, sure. This specific article is a propaganda piece, commissioned, paid for, and disseminated by The Manhattan Institute for Policy Research. I won't argue with their right to spread their message, policies, and to engage in marketing exercises, but this is very much their work. As a matter of cold fact, not opinion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Institute_for_Policy_Research https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Institute_for_Policy...

WarOnPrivacy 2y ago

Because it was posted by someone who didn't know (or did know) that the mag is wallpaper for The Manhattan Institute. ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Journal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_Journal ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Casey#Return_to_private_work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Casey#Return_to_pri...

righthand 2y ago
Reading it for me it is clearly propaganda. I didn’t even know it’s link to politics until I read HN comments. The targeted social causes and logic hoop-jumping alone in the article is a pretty obvious sign IMO.
thoradam 2y ago
It is true that I don’t this publication. I also don’t know the author or what The Manhattan Institute is. In general unless a piece of text is asking me to take something on faith or I am unable to reason with it I don’t care in the slightest who wrote it, where it was published or what their affiliations are.
- WarOnPrivacy 2y ago
  > In general unless a piece of text is asking me to take something on faith The longer I live the more I realize I don't know. For me it means I have to have some trust in the people communicating with me - that they're operating in good faith. More so when their comms are persuasive arguments. Without my trust + their forthrightness, I have to expend significant time and energy parsing and vetting their statements - for little practical benefit.

aprilthird2021 2y ago

It can be a flawed analysis without being propaganda and ignoring societal decline (as the definition of decline and progress itself is debatable). I do think the fact that humans build up careers and aren't just going to roll over and stop working or switch careers when it would be prudent for society is a good thing to note. Just as career activists move from one cause to another, so too do programmers

defrost 2y ago
Articles can be, sure. This specific article is a propaganda piece, commissioned, paid for, and disseminated by The Manhattan Institute for Policy Research. I won't argue with their right to spread their message, policies, and to engage in marketing exercises, but this is very much their work. As a matter of cold fact, not opinion. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Institute_for_Policy_Research https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Institute_for_Policy...