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OP specified “culturally”, ie people who stand up for free speech regardless of its content are painted as alt-right bigots, even if they only care about preser

by Dig1t 2y ago

OP specified “culturally”, ie people who stand up for free speech regardless of its content are painted as alt-right bigots, even if they only care about preserving the right to speak freely. I’m also in this camp and have been down-voted into oblivion many times for just saying something like “I disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it”. It’s not fun to be a defender of truly free speech because you get painted into the same camp as the bad guys.

consumer451 2y ago
I don't believe that anyone is truly for absolute free speech, it's just some theoretical utopia which sounds great, until you actually dive into details. Would you defend my right to call your little brother or sister terrible disgusting names? Threaten you or your family's lives? Say that your entire ethnicity doesn't deserve to exist? Because that would be absolute free speech. I don't think anybody should have the right to do that. I mean they can try, but if it happened in real life, they'd find out real quick that it wasn't a good idea. If you disagree with me on major issues, I will defend your right to state that. But if I find myself in a place full of hate, be they nazis, or tankies, or whatever, I leave and don't come back.
- School-Cotton 2y ago
  The U.S. might not be a free speech utopia but it’s pretty close. > Would you defend my right to call your little brother or sister terrible disgusting names? Threaten you or your family's lives? Say that your entire ethnicity doesn't deserve to exist? Out of these three examples, the first and third are totally legal in the U.S.
  - consumer451 2y ago
    Legal yes, IRL not very good for one's health though.
- Dig1t 2y ago
  I know I sound like a horrible evil person, but yes I truly would like to live in a world where you can say any of those examples. As another commenter said, 2/3 of those are already legal to say anyway, and I am so glad that I live in a place that has that freedom. I don’t agree with or like any of the things you say but I would rather live in a world where you can say them instead of being arrested.

by Dig1t 2y ago

consumer451 2y ago

I don't believe that anyone is truly for absolute free speech, it's just some theoretical utopia which sounds great, until you actually dive into details. Would you defend my right to call your little brother or sister terrible disgusting names? Threaten you or your family's lives? Say that your entire ethnicity doesn't deserve to exist? Because that would be absolute free speech. I don't think anybody should have the right to do that. I mean they can try, but if it happened in real life, they'd find out real quick that it wasn't a good idea. If you disagree with me on major issues, I will defend your right to state that. But if I find myself in a place full of hate, be they nazis, or tankies, or whatever, I leave and don't come back.

School-Cotton 2y ago
The U.S. might not be a free speech utopia but it’s pretty close. > Would you defend my right to call your little brother or sister terrible disgusting names? Threaten you or your family's lives? Say that your entire ethnicity doesn't deserve to exist? Out of these three examples, the first and third are totally legal in the U.S.
- consumer451 2y ago
  Legal yes, IRL not very good for one's health though.
Dig1t 2y ago
I know I sound like a horrible evil person, but yes I truly would like to live in a world where you can say any of those examples. As another commenter said, 2/3 of those are already legal to say anyway, and I am so glad that I live in a place that has that freedom. I don’t agree with or like any of the things you say but I would rather live in a world where you can say them instead of being arrested.