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I feel like the percent of people using suspend is a tiny tiny fraction of the percent of people using react. I think this title is massively sensationalized.

remixff2400 2y ago
The unfortunate part of this is that a large percentage of that small percentage is library maintainers, so it matters a lot more overall because of their role in the React space, even if users aren't necessarily using those features.
crubier 2y ago
I think you're wrong, without knowing it. And in a way this kind of subjective judgment call "people must be using react like me I guess" is the entire cause of this misshap. Don't assume usage patterns. Measure them, or you know nothing.
- Capricorn2481 2y ago
  But you just did the same thing by saying they were wrong. Did you measure it?
- windowshopping 2y ago
  Okay, here you go. Github search for "import react", 56M results: https://github.com/search?q=%22import+react%22&type=code https://github.com/search?q=%22import+react%22&type=code Github search for "</Suspense>", 220k results: https://github.com/search?q=%22%3C%2FSuspense%3E%22&type=code https://github.com/search?q=%22%3C%2FSuspense%3E%22&type=cod... Thanks for the mildly condescending attempt to give me your earthly wisdom, though. Believe it or not, common sense can occasionally be just as useful as hard data. Maybe this can be a learning opportunity for you instead.
  - crubier 2y ago
    This is almost as biased as a personal anecdotal opinion: - You're looking at open source projects only (Most users of Suspense are going to be commercial closed source) - You're looking at all versions of React over the last 12 years (Suspense is fairly recent) - You're not weighing by number of stars, users, contributors, activity (E.g. you're probably 5M "React getting started" projects in there) So, no. Still not. Anyway, by now the React team acknowledged that their initial decision was biased and decided to not ship React 19 without a solution, so we're good!

remixff2400 2y ago

The unfortunate part of this is that a large percentage of that small percentage is library maintainers, so it matters a lot more overall because of their role in the React space, even if users aren't necessarily using those features.

crubier 2y ago

I think you're wrong, without knowing it. And in a way this kind of subjective judgment call "people must be using react like me I guess" is the entire cause of this misshap. Don't assume usage patterns. Measure them, or you know nothing.

Capricorn2481 2y ago
But you just did the same thing by saying they were wrong. Did you measure it?
windowshopping 2y ago
Okay, here you go. Github search for "import react", 56M results: https://github.com/search?q=%22import+react%22&type=code https://github.com/search?q=%22import+react%22&type=code Github search for "</Suspense>", 220k results: https://github.com/search?q=%22%3C%2FSuspense%3E%22&type=code https://github.com/search?q=%22%3C%2FSuspense%3E%22&type=cod... Thanks for the mildly condescending attempt to give me your earthly wisdom, though. Believe it or not, common sense can occasionally be just as useful as hard data. Maybe this can be a learning opportunity for you instead.
- crubier 2y ago
  This is almost as biased as a personal anecdotal opinion: - You're looking at open source projects only (Most users of Suspense are going to be commercial closed source) - You're looking at all versions of React over the last 12 years (Suspense is fairly recent) - You're not weighing by number of stars, users, contributors, activity (E.g. you're probably 5M "React getting started" projects in there) So, no. Still not. Anyway, by now the React team acknowledged that their initial decision was biased and decided to not ship React 19 without a solution, so we're good!