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Shutout for Svelte. It took the best of VUE and react. It's fast and very lightweight when compared to Vue, which has a largish ecosystem. https://svelte.dev/

by ssahoo 2y ago

Shutout for Svelte. It took the best of VUE and react. It's fast and very lightweight when compared to Vue, which has a largish ecosystem. https://svelte.dev/ https://svelte.dev/

sertraline 2y ago
I come to think that corporate people love React because if you stop following the news and not be constantly reminded about the direction React is currently heading, you will fall out of the loop and your projects will stop working in 1 year or so. Which is beneficial for the employees, as they will never run out of work to do, maintaining the framework itself rather than their actual project. And the framework gets more complex with each year, too, so you can pretend that you are doing some complex work without actually doing it.
- buremba 2y ago
  ^ Exactly my feelings about React. The sad truth is that React is still viable for startups as the ecosystem has the most extensive librarie.
_puk 2y ago
I love svelte, and is what I reach for personally, but it's still early enough in its lifecycle that there's constant changes / new paradigms being introduced, especially if you include svelte-kit (originally it used sapper). If I had a team that had gone all in on Svelte I'd be bemoaning the need to upgrade recent code already.
- Capricorn2481 2y ago
  There's literally more churn in Svelte than there is in the React library
moffkalast 2y ago
Hot take time: React is the most corporate framework to have ever corporated in the history of corporate, designed for one thing first and foremost: To make high turnover easier so they can fire you at any time and replace you with the next guy in line who'll already know how the entire thing works... because there is only one stupid way to do things in React. You either like it or it feels like pulling teeth. I'm up for cheering for literally any alternative. Any.
- deleted 2y ago
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- lioeters 2y ago
  To me Angular seems even more of a corporate (sorry "enterprise") framework, and does a better job at providing the "right way" for the entire application architecture. React (now) has a bunch of rules you have to remember, tricks to get performant code, etc., but it still leaves too much developer freedom on how to structure things. They should have gone full corporate, with rules and prescribed best practices on every aspect, so a new hire can just follow the manual. Redux was perfect in that sense, verbose and predictable, like a factory. Of course, I would rather quit than work within such a strict framework, but React going there halfway is even worse.

by ssahoo 2y ago

Shutout for Svelte. It took the best of VUE and react. It's fast and very lightweight when compared to Vue, which has a largish ecosystem. https://svelte.dev/ https://svelte.dev/

sertraline 2y ago

I come to think that corporate people love React because if you stop following the news and not be constantly reminded about the direction React is currently heading, you will fall out of the loop and your projects will stop working in 1 year or so. Which is beneficial for the employees, as they will never run out of work to do, maintaining the framework itself rather than their actual project. And the framework gets more complex with each year, too, so you can pretend that you are doing some complex work without actually doing it.

buremba 2y ago
^ Exactly my feelings about React. The sad truth is that React is still viable for startups as the ecosystem has the most extensive librarie.

_puk 2y ago

I love svelte, and is what I reach for personally, but it's still early enough in its lifecycle that there's constant changes / new paradigms being introduced, especially if you include svelte-kit (originally it used sapper). If I had a team that had gone all in on Svelte I'd be bemoaning the need to upgrade recent code already.

Capricorn2481 2y ago
There's literally more churn in Svelte than there is in the React library

moffkalast 2y ago

Hot take time: React is the most corporate framework to have ever corporated in the history of corporate, designed for one thing first and foremost: To make high turnover easier so they can fire you at any time and replace you with the next guy in line who'll already know how the entire thing works... because there is only one stupid way to do things in React. You either like it or it feels like pulling teeth. I'm up for cheering for literally any alternative. Any.

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lioeters 2y ago
To me Angular seems even more of a corporate (sorry "enterprise") framework, and does a better job at providing the "right way" for the entire application architecture. React (now) has a bunch of rules you have to remember, tricks to get performant code, etc., but it still leaves too much developer freedom on how to structure things. They should have gone full corporate, with rules and prescribed best practices on every aspect, so a new hire can just follow the manual. Redux was perfect in that sense, verbose and predictable, like a factory. Of course, I would rather quit than work within such a strict framework, but React going there halfway is even worse.