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What an utterly ridiculous response. In your eyes, businesses should be able to run roughshod over the consumer? Yes, maybe the laws could have been more polish

What an utterly ridiculous response. In your eyes, businesses should be able to run roughshod over the consumer? Yes, maybe the laws could have been more polished or have been implemented in a better way, but the underlying idea of protecting the consumer is the important takeaway from these laws.

lawlessone 2y ago
>What an utterly ridiculous response. To be fair to them, i think it was sarcasm.
- glitchcrab 2y ago
  You may well be right, or at least I hope you are anyway.
- cratermoon 2y ago
  Poe's Law applies
- ok_dad 2y ago
  On HN, you can be sure there are several people who literally believe the world would be better without any regulations or laws forcing businesses to do anything. This place is the pinnacle of anarcho-capitalism.
  - permo-w 2y ago
    at least here there's a spectrum of views that largely get by peacefully, and the entire place isn't focused on that conflict, a la twitter. yes there are lot of right-wing headcases entirely taken up by their own bottom-line, and yes the place itself is broadly funded and owned by people who think like, or at the very least, act like anarcho-capitalists, but they only really float to the surface when a post about regulation comes up, and even then, the discussion stays mostly civil. it could be a lot worse
    - shiroiushi 2y ago
      It could be worse of course, but it's something that needs to be kept in mind when using this site. I really think it should be a publicly-posted disclaimer.
blantonl 2y ago
to also be fair, I just recently returned from Europe and I was shocked at how maddeningly frustrating it was to simply use the Web. Between shockingly obtrusive GDPR consent forms and outright blocks on Websites from EU consumers, it was a wild look at what Europeans have to go through under the guise of consumer protections. Like, the pendulum swung WAY too far in the other direction.
- wizzwizz4 2y ago
  > Between shockingly obtrusive GDPR consent forms and outright blocks on Websites from EU consumers, None of which are required by GDPR. In fact, those obtrusive "consent" forms are usually violations of GDPR.
- glitchcrab 2y ago
  As much as the idea of GDPR (and specifically cookie consent) is well intentioned, the actual laws themselves aren't great. Cookie consent is especially frustrating because it encourages the creators of the consent popups to use dark patterns to try and trick people into just accepting them.
  - dghlsakjg 2y ago
    Cookie consent only apply to non-necessary cookies. The laws are great because every cookie consent form is essentially saying, "we as a company want you to accept a cookie that is unnecessary." If you don't install unnecessary cookies, you don't need to have a consent form.
    - doublepg23 2y ago
      Do you think the official EU site uses unnecessary cookies? https://european-union.europa.eu/ https://european-union.europa.eu/
      - troupo 2y ago
        1. Yes it does 2. It clearly explains which cookies it uses in the linked policy page 3. It has an opt-out that is as easy as the opt-in (as required by law)
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lawlessone 2y ago

>What an utterly ridiculous response. To be fair to them, i think it was sarcasm.

glitchcrab 2y ago
You may well be right, or at least I hope you are anyway.
cratermoon 2y ago
Poe's Law applies
ok_dad 2y ago
On HN, you can be sure there are several people who literally believe the world would be better without any regulations or laws forcing businesses to do anything. This place is the pinnacle of anarcho-capitalism.
- permo-w 2y ago
  at least here there's a spectrum of views that largely get by peacefully, and the entire place isn't focused on that conflict, a la twitter. yes there are lot of right-wing headcases entirely taken up by their own bottom-line, and yes the place itself is broadly funded and owned by people who think like, or at the very least, act like anarcho-capitalists, but they only really float to the surface when a post about regulation comes up, and even then, the discussion stays mostly civil. it could be a lot worse
  - shiroiushi 2y ago
    It could be worse of course, but it's something that needs to be kept in mind when using this site. I really think it should be a publicly-posted disclaimer.

blantonl 2y ago

to also be fair, I just recently returned from Europe and I was shocked at how maddeningly frustrating it was to simply use the Web. Between shockingly obtrusive GDPR consent forms and outright blocks on Websites from EU consumers, it was a wild look at what Europeans have to go through under the guise of consumer protections. Like, the pendulum swung WAY too far in the other direction.

wizzwizz4 2y ago
> Between shockingly obtrusive GDPR consent forms and outright blocks on Websites from EU consumers, None of which are required by GDPR. In fact, those obtrusive "consent" forms are usually violations of GDPR.
glitchcrab 2y ago
As much as the idea of GDPR (and specifically cookie consent) is well intentioned, the actual laws themselves aren't great. Cookie consent is especially frustrating because it encourages the creators of the consent popups to use dark patterns to try and trick people into just accepting them.
- dghlsakjg 2y ago
  Cookie consent only apply to non-necessary cookies. The laws are great because every cookie consent form is essentially saying, "we as a company want you to accept a cookie that is unnecessary." If you don't install unnecessary cookies, you don't need to have a consent form.
  - doublepg23 2y ago
    Do you think the official EU site uses unnecessary cookies? https://european-union.europa.eu/ https://european-union.europa.eu/
    - troupo 2y ago
      1. Yes it does 2. It clearly explains which cookies it uses in the linked policy page 3. It has an opt-out that is as easy as the opt-in (as required by law)

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