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> I have some pet theories, but those center around commercial real estate. This is the most echoed, low-effort theory repeated over and over on places like Re

> I have some pet theories, but those center around commercial real estate. This is the most echoed, low-effort theory repeated over and over on places like Reddit. The vast, vast majority of people I know who want to return to the office have absolutely nothing to do with commercial real estate. If you put any effort into the theory at all it immediately falls apart. Some people just like working in the office.

A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago
I do not want to go into specifics as they may reveal the place I work at. However, without going into those specifics, I will state that my current employer does have some above average exposure to real estate and the speech some of us got from our managers was 'we should do our part'( in helping CRE recover ). Now, just because it is simple and straightforward, does not mean it is wrong. Oftentimes, money can more easily explain things that seem complex. I don't want to speculate as to why it is branded and dismissed as low effort/reddit origin, but I personally think it is weird. It is, frankly, way more reasonable explanation than other rationale put forth. edit: Come to think of it, I understand the why. Up until now, it was all about 'productivity and collaboration'. The change in rationale would be rather jarring.
simoncion 2y ago
> Some people just like working in the office. No doubt. This isn't a one-size-fits-all thing. Some people absolutely love working in the office. Some people just prefer it. Others have a garbage home office and will never have any home setup conducive to work. I 10000% agree with this, and anyone who says otherwise is being dreadfully foolish. That doesn't explain even a little bit why folks who do not like (or even very, very strongly dislike) coming into the office are being threatened, are getting cut off from any and all promotions, or even being fired for continuing to work from their home office. > If you put any effort into the theory [that the "force everyone to come into the office with threats of removal from the promotion track, or removal from one's position" situation that's ongoing may be related to plummeting commercial real estate valuations and attempts to prop them up] at all it immediately falls apart. Your anecdotes don't support this claim.

A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago

I do not want to go into specifics as they may reveal the place I work at. However, without going into those specifics, I will state that my current employer does have some above average exposure to real estate and the speech some of us got from our managers was 'we should do our part'( in helping CRE recover ). Now, just because it is simple and straightforward, does not mean it is wrong. Oftentimes, money can more easily explain things that seem complex. I don't want to speculate as to why it is branded and dismissed as low effort/reddit origin, but I personally think it is weird. It is, frankly, way more reasonable explanation than other rationale put forth. edit: Come to think of it, I understand the why. Up until now, it was all about 'productivity and collaboration'. The change in rationale would be rather jarring.

simoncion 2y ago

> Some people just like working in the office. No doubt. This isn't a one-size-fits-all thing. Some people absolutely love working in the office. Some people just prefer it. Others have a garbage home office and will never have any home setup conducive to work. I 10000% agree with this, and anyone who says otherwise is being dreadfully foolish. That doesn't explain even a little bit why folks who do not like (or even very, very strongly dislike) coming into the office are being threatened, are getting cut off from any and all promotions, or even being fired for continuing to work from their home office. > If you put any effort into the theory [that the "force everyone to come into the office with threats of removal from the promotion track, or removal from one's position" situation that's ongoing may be related to plummeting commercial real estate valuations and attempts to prop them up] at all it immediately falls apart. Your anecdotes don't support this claim.