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There are a lot more places worth the visit in Bolivia, apart from the Yungas and Potosí. Salar de Uyuni, Sucre (especially the Indigenous Art and Textiles Muse

by mharig 2y ago

There are a lot more places worth the visit in Bolivia, apart from the Yungas and Potosí. Salar de Uyuni, Sucre (especially the Indigenous Art and Textiles Museum), National Reserve Torotoro, Pantanal (the Bolivian part is better than the Brasilian part), Tarija, and a lot more. Bolivia is at least as safe as the USofA. Just stay out of Chapare and keep an eye on your money and passport when traveling with bus (and of course in crowded places, but this is true for near the whole planet).

mattbruv 2y ago
Also, if you're interested in History and enjoy "off the beaten path" type of tourism, it's 100% worth the ~8 hour ride from Santa Cruz to visit La Higuera, the little pueblo where the Bolivian Government captured and executed Che Guevara. The schoolhouse that they executed him in is now converted into a tiny little museum, and the whole town has art and statues of him, it's a super interesting place.
- mc32 2y ago
  Par for the course. They may as well have one for Butch Cassidy too.
  - nativeit 2y ago
    I’m not sure if you’re suggesting Che Guavara wasn’t assassinated, wasn’t assassinated in La Higuera, or that the museum dedicated to memorializing this historical event is either insincere or simply trading on Guevara’s memory as a cynical cash grab…so tldr; WTF are you on about?
    - titanomachy 2y ago
      I think they’re suggesting Guevara was a criminal and murderer and we shouldn’t idolize or memorialize him. America has strong and deeply ingrained anti-communist sentiment. I think that regardless of your political leaning, he is an interesting piece of history.
    - mattbruv 2y ago
      I don't understand what he's on about either. They're hardly even making any money from it. I signed the guest book and there were only like one or two visitors every couple of days (or week). The woman who gives tours of the museum can't read or write, she's probably in her 80s. Only elderly people live in the town nowadays, all of the youth left. It can't be more than 30-50 people living there. I don't even remember paying anything to enter, and if I did, it couldn't have been more than a couple of dollars.
  - hobs 2y ago
    https://visitidaho.org/things-to-do/museums-exhibits/butch-cassidy-museum-at-the-bank-of-montpelier/ https://visitidaho.org/things-to-do/museums-exhibits/butch-c...
29athrowaway 2y ago
Seeing other countries from the reductionist lens of tourism is the McDonalization of humanity. Now the human condition has been reduced to a list of superficial and trivialized activities on Tripadvisor. Take a selfie next to a statue, eat at a restaurant, buy some souvenir made in China... now you can check a country in your country list and say "I have been to n+1 countries". What was the cost? burning a massive amount of plane fuel to get you there that is equivalent to you burning your trash for a full year, something that in a planet governed by a rational species would be illegal to do. The article talks about something much more profound. Long distance tourism is at our current technological level a planet-killing industry and should be outlawed.
- user070223 2y ago
  McDonalds flopped in Bolivia :)
- BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 2y ago
  Car dependent suburban sprawl necessitating 3 hours a day commutes by car 5 days a week,50 weeks a year is a much heavier load on the planet than an annual plane trip .
  - 29athrowaway 2y ago
    Good thing I don't have a car.
  - pessimizer 2y ago
    Yes, also don't do that if you can avoid it. You can always avoid tourism.
user070223 2y ago
Cochabamba(Chapare) indeed known for gangs and drugs, and also for the water war against privatization of water company(influenced James bond Quantom of solace) In 2019 there were protests after alleged election fraud, Evo morales the president fled out of the country In La Paz was a hotspot for tourists abduction in the early 2000s, there is also a known market of stolen goods I had a visit from Interpol in a hostel in Sucre couple of years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochabamba_Water_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochabamba_Water_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Bolivian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Bolivian_protests
- janc_ 2y ago
  Interpol is an organisation for cooperation between national police organisations. They don't visit ordinary citizens or tourists, nor are they allowed to do any police actions in (other) countries. Are you sure that wasn't part of some (attempted) scam?
  - user070223 2y ago
    No I'm not; I was surprised(for some reason I though Interpol is a european thing) and showed some resistant but they just wanted to check in. I did look up now and found multiple cases where interpol was involved in bolivia as well as car with the logo, and officers with hats \_o_/

by mharig 2y ago

mattbruv 2y ago

Also, if you're interested in History and enjoy "off the beaten path" type of tourism, it's 100% worth the ~8 hour ride from Santa Cruz to visit La Higuera, the little pueblo where the Bolivian Government captured and executed Che Guevara. The schoolhouse that they executed him in is now converted into a tiny little museum, and the whole town has art and statues of him, it's a super interesting place.

mc32 2y ago
Par for the course. They may as well have one for Butch Cassidy too.
- nativeit 2y ago
  I’m not sure if you’re suggesting Che Guavara wasn’t assassinated, wasn’t assassinated in La Higuera, or that the museum dedicated to memorializing this historical event is either insincere or simply trading on Guevara’s memory as a cynical cash grab…so tldr; WTF are you on about?
  - titanomachy 2y ago
    I think they’re suggesting Guevara was a criminal and murderer and we shouldn’t idolize or memorialize him. America has strong and deeply ingrained anti-communist sentiment. I think that regardless of your political leaning, he is an interesting piece of history.
  - mattbruv 2y ago
    I don't understand what he's on about either. They're hardly even making any money from it. I signed the guest book and there were only like one or two visitors every couple of days (or week). The woman who gives tours of the museum can't read or write, she's probably in her 80s. Only elderly people live in the town nowadays, all of the youth left. It can't be more than 30-50 people living there. I don't even remember paying anything to enter, and if I did, it couldn't have been more than a couple of dollars.
- hobs 2y ago
  https://visitidaho.org/things-to-do/museums-exhibits/butch-cassidy-museum-at-the-bank-of-montpelier/ https://visitidaho.org/things-to-do/museums-exhibits/butch-c...

29athrowaway 2y ago

Seeing other countries from the reductionist lens of tourism is the McDonalization of humanity. Now the human condition has been reduced to a list of superficial and trivialized activities on Tripadvisor. Take a selfie next to a statue, eat at a restaurant, buy some souvenir made in China... now you can check a country in your country list and say "I have been to n+1 countries". What was the cost? burning a massive amount of plane fuel to get you there that is equivalent to you burning your trash for a full year, something that in a planet governed by a rational species would be illegal to do. The article talks about something much more profound. Long distance tourism is at our current technological level a planet-killing industry and should be outlawed.

user070223 2y ago
McDonalds flopped in Bolivia :)
BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 2y ago
Car dependent suburban sprawl necessitating 3 hours a day commutes by car 5 days a week,50 weeks a year is a much heavier load on the planet than an annual plane trip .
- 29athrowaway 2y ago
  Good thing I don't have a car.
- pessimizer 2y ago
  Yes, also don't do that if you can avoid it. You can always avoid tourism.

user070223 2y ago

Cochabamba(Chapare) indeed known for gangs and drugs, and also for the water war against privatization of water company(influenced James bond Quantom of solace) In 2019 there were protests after alleged election fraud, Evo morales the president fled out of the country In La Paz was a hotspot for tourists abduction in the early 2000s, there is also a known market of stolen goods I had a visit from Interpol in a hostel in Sucre couple of years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochabamba_Water_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochabamba_Water_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Bolivian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Bolivian_protests

janc_ 2y ago
Interpol is an organisation for cooperation between national police organisations. They don't visit ordinary citizens or tourists, nor are they allowed to do any police actions in (other) countries. Are you sure that wasn't part of some (attempted) scam?
- user070223 2y ago
  No I'm not; I was surprised(for some reason I though Interpol is a european thing) and showed some resistant but they just wanted to check in. I did look up now and found multiple cases where interpol was involved in bolivia as well as car with the logo, and officers with hats \_o_/