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> It's weeks of legal battle over 300€. We are not alike. As soon as it costs them several tens of billable hours (people on phone, someone making appointments

by consp 2y ago

> It's weeks of legal battle over 300€. We are not alike. As soon as it costs them several tens of billable hours (people on phone, someone making appointments, discussions, emails, lawyer doing it's thing etc) I'm all fair game and will definitely spend my time screwing with them simply to make them pay even if I lose in the end. Since I'm going to be frustrated when I'm being screwed over I see no reason not repay that and to act out that frustration in the worst possible way I can manage for the companies involved.

calyhre 2y ago
Same here. It's also possible to buy a new one during the "fight" period, and resell/donate the repaired one after
- tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
  Why ask for a repair at that point? At that point, demand the purchase price back.
xlii 2y ago
But it also costs me. Conversations with lawyer is 1.5h, preparing documents another hour. I need to keep appliance somewhere, which is a storage cost. Average time to resolution is 8 months. I need to pay lawyer up front, and the costs are going to be returned, but this is yet another process. Initial costs are 200€ to even start, not to mention legal fees. Even a simple form for costs reimbursement has 4 pages and based on requirements would require approximately 2h of gathering receipts, proving communication. If I'd earn 30€/hour (and my rate is much higher), it would cost me around 600€ to get into the process. Anything outside original amount requires follow-up process so another 8 months. Do I want to spend 2 years to get approximately 1000€ in total, during which I have not usable washing machine stuffed somewhere in my apartment? Nope. As for "legal billable hours". Companies of specific size have lawyer on payroll. It doesn't increase the cost for them and they won't blink an eye or even notice. Facebook post will do more damage to them than above stunt, but it won't bring me anything in return. So yes, they win, because my cost is higher than theirs. And I will stress about it, shortening my lifespan and they won't care at all.

by consp 2y ago

calyhre 2y ago

Same here. It's also possible to buy a new one during the "fight" period, and resell/donate the repaired one after

tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
Why ask for a repair at that point? At that point, demand the purchase price back.

xlii 2y ago

But it also costs me. Conversations with lawyer is 1.5h, preparing documents another hour. I need to keep appliance somewhere, which is a storage cost. Average time to resolution is 8 months. I need to pay lawyer up front, and the costs are going to be returned, but this is yet another process. Initial costs are 200€ to even start, not to mention legal fees. Even a simple form for costs reimbursement has 4 pages and based on requirements would require approximately 2h of gathering receipts, proving communication. If I'd earn 30€/hour (and my rate is much higher), it would cost me around 600€ to get into the process. Anything outside original amount requires follow-up process so another 8 months. Do I want to spend 2 years to get approximately 1000€ in total, during which I have not usable washing machine stuffed somewhere in my apartment? Nope. As for "legal billable hours". Companies of specific size have lawyer on payroll. It doesn't increase the cost for them and they won't blink an eye or even notice. Facebook post will do more damage to them than above stunt, but it won't bring me anything in return. So yes, they win, because my cost is higher than theirs. And I will stress about it, shortening my lifespan and they won't care at all.