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This stood out to me: “But the federal government sets annual production caps on controlled substances—including the amphetamines that make up the active ingre

This stood out to me: “But the federal government sets annual production caps on controlled substances—including the amphetamines that make up the active ingredients in prescription stimulants like Adderall. And since the start of the Adderall shortage, the government has declined to raise the quotas, keeping the cap in place even as the demand for the drug has gone through the roof.” Is it just me or is this completely insane? A drug that dramatically improves productivity has a cap on production? I’m not saying it’s not without risks but adults should have the right to make that decision for themselves. I feel like it’s “in” to advocate for freedom of choice when it comes to weed and psychedelics, and I understand that they have lower risk of addiction than adderall. But if you’re going to use the freedom of choice argument for those drugs then you need to apply it to others as well. I’m not saying this telehealth company is blameless (they’re not) but I agree with the article that the government needs to accept responsibility and raise caps. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t. There’s probably a correlation between the cap and GDP.

lotsofpulp 2y ago
I thought basically all medicines and precursors to medicines came from China or India or somewhere outside of US government purview. How would a US maximum on production actually affect supply?
- standardUser 2y ago
  It's a controlled substance in the US (and outright illegal in some countries). The DEA sets a cap on how much can be distributed to pharmacies each month, which means the shortage is deliberately caused by DEA policy and can be ended at any time.
Log_out_ 2y ago
https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2020/01/08/the-world-war-ii-wonder-drug-that-never-left-japan/ideas/essay/ https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2020/01/08/the-world-war-... Its not working out.. Never did in fact.
currymj 2y ago
there can be serious downsides to amphetamines, even at normal therapeutic doses and in the case of no addiction. they have emotional effects and effects on cognition. people can become paranoid, start to have strange and erratic patterns of thinking, make bad or impulsive decisions, see patterns where there are none, etc. and these are particularly bad because it's hard for the individual to perceive themselves, making "personal choice" more difficult to argue for. in the mid-20th century amphetamines were widely available and the problems showed up very quickly. it would not be good to repeat this. to be a little glib: if everyone at your company starts taking amphetamines, maybe you get massively increased productivity for certain workers, but you're trading it for some terrible managerial decisions, and also a deluge of extremely long emails.
- rightbyte 2y ago
  I think there is a close causality with soldiers on amphetamin and commiting atrocities. But I can't seem to find any research on it.
- throwthrowuknow 2y ago
  Dose dependent response. If there’s an amphetamine tray alongside the coffee maker then people are going to talk if Doug keeps bogarting all the high mg pills, either to him or his manager. If it’s the C suite then you just take your risks staying there same as the places that have a full wetbar with rotating stock in the meeting room. Companies are run by all kinds of people and you’re kidding yourself if you think they’re all teetotallers.

lotsofpulp 2y ago

I thought basically all medicines and precursors to medicines came from China or India or somewhere outside of US government purview. How would a US maximum on production actually affect supply?

standardUser 2y ago
It's a controlled substance in the US (and outright illegal in some countries). The DEA sets a cap on how much can be distributed to pharmacies each month, which means the shortage is deliberately caused by DEA policy and can be ended at any time.

Log_out_ 2y ago

https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2020/01/08/the-world-war-ii-wonder-drug-that-never-left-japan/ideas/essay/ https://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2020/01/08/the-world-war-... Its not working out.. Never did in fact.

currymj 2y ago

there can be serious downsides to amphetamines, even at normal therapeutic doses and in the case of no addiction. they have emotional effects and effects on cognition. people can become paranoid, start to have strange and erratic patterns of thinking, make bad or impulsive decisions, see patterns where there are none, etc. and these are particularly bad because it's hard for the individual to perceive themselves, making "personal choice" more difficult to argue for. in the mid-20th century amphetamines were widely available and the problems showed up very quickly. it would not be good to repeat this. to be a little glib: if everyone at your company starts taking amphetamines, maybe you get massively increased productivity for certain workers, but you're trading it for some terrible managerial decisions, and also a deluge of extremely long emails.

rightbyte 2y ago
I think there is a close causality with soldiers on amphetamin and commiting atrocities. But I can't seem to find any research on it.
throwthrowuknow 2y ago
Dose dependent response. If there’s an amphetamine tray alongside the coffee maker then people are going to talk if Doug keeps bogarting all the high mg pills, either to him or his manager. If it’s the C suite then you just take your risks staying there same as the places that have a full wetbar with rotating stock in the meeting room. Companies are run by all kinds of people and you’re kidding yourself if you think they’re all teetotallers.