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PSA: Use the McDonald's mobile app, and always check the 'Deals' section before you order. On average you'll probably save 15%. Sometimes with a BOGOF, at other

PSA: Use the McDonald's mobile app, and always check the 'Deals' section before you order. On average you'll probably save 15%. Sometimes with a BOGOF, at other times with a discounted item. You can still use the drive through if you like. Just mention your order code instead of telling them your whole order.

MrGinkgo 2y ago
You save 15% but mcdonalds makes millions off all the data you consent to giving them by downloading the app. I also heard that, buried in the T&C of their mobile app, you basically consent to rescinding your ability to sue them? I'm not trying to pull too much of a gotcha though, I use the app myself.
- dartos 2y ago
  I don’t think terms and conditions ate powerful enough to prevent you from suing them. That’s what the army of lawyers is for.
- satvikpendem 2y ago
  > You save 15% but mcdonalds makes millions off all the data you consent to giving them by downloading the app. People always talk about apps "selling your data," and I can understand it in cases like Facebook (and Meta platforms in general) and Google, but in this case, how would it happen that McDonalds "makes millions off all the data you consent to giving them?"
  - Aeglaecia 2y ago
    a nicely packaged bundle containing the information of hundreds of millions of customers' travel/spending/lifestyle habits ... would allow a company to sell more shit to those consumers ... so that information is worth money .... especially when collected en masse ...
  - autoexec 2y ago
    The last I heard McDonalds said they aren't selling some of your data (like your credit card info or your location data) but that doesn't mean they can't sell other data, sell any of that data at some later date, or that the data won't get leaked or stolen and sold by someone else. Hasn't pretty much everyone gotten several data breach notifications by now?
autoexec 2y ago
PSA: don't install apps for fast food places on your phones. That app collects huge amounts of data about you and they're profiling users including their "preferences, characteristics, psychological trends, predispositions, behavior, attitudes, intelligence, abilities, or aptitudes." It continuously tracks your location even when you aren't using the app or haven't used it in ages. They use your credit card info to track your purchase history/spending habits and they try to determine how much money you have. This seems like a great way to set prices according to how munch money they think you have or based on what you normally purchase. You might end up being charged more for the same items than they're charging the person who pulls in after you. No discount on their shitty food is worth the intimate details of your life. They sure aren't collecting all that information because they want to make less money off of you. Stop giving them the valuable information they need to take more of your money.
- lmm 2y ago
  The OS won't let them track your location when you're not using it. They'll profile you based on your credit card info whether you use the app or not. And they need bulk data for psychological profiling, it doesn't make any difference whether you as an individual opt in or out. The mom-and-pop places that people who make a fuss about these kind of business practices tend to love do all the things that those people claim to hate - track their customers, try to figure out how much money they have, offer special treatment to particular customers, notice where else their customers spend their time - so I've never quite got what exactly people are objecting to. But hey, if you don't want the discount, more for me.
  - autoexec 2y ago
    > The OS won't let them track your location when you're not using it. I can't speak to IOS but it will on android devices (with some limitations https://developer.android.com/about/versions/oreo/background-location-limits https://developer.android.com/about/versions/oreo/background...) If you give an app permission to access nearby wifi devices it can track you that way as well. If you give an app permission to use bluetooth it can track your location using that too. > They'll profile you based on your credit card info whether you use the app or not. They might, but they'll have a lot less data to connect with your purchase history. You consent to a lot more data collection by installing their app than you do just by walking into their store and buying something, > The mom-and-pop places that people who make a fuss about these kind of business practices tend to love do all the things that those people claim to hate - track their customers, try to figure out how much money they have, offer special treatment to particular customers - so I've never quite got what exactly people are objecting to. No one wants to be tracked by mom-and-pop places either. All this data collection means that you aren't getting a discount, you're actually being screwed over and the data they collect will continue to be used against you for the rest of your life in any way that they think will let them take more of your money or would otherwise benefit them. They aren't collecting that data and paying for the collecting/storage/use of that data for your benefit. "Special treatment" doesn't mean what you think it does. This kind of surveillance leads to discriminatory pricing (see for example https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/A-special-price-just-for-you%3A-effects-of-dynamic-on-Priester-Robbert/d24cc89014ab21ead0733d26a797698237f30f45 https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/A-special-price-just-f... and wendy's recent attempt at surge pricing) which companies are desperate to get consumers to accept because it stands to make them much much richer at your expense. Don't fall for this! I promise that you won't feel like you're getting "special treatment" if they get their way.
qp11 2y ago
PSA: learn to cook. savings skyrocket. no apps required.
- bravetraveler 2y ago
  I'll teach right now: apply hot
alphabettsy 2y ago
I think a better recommendation would be to not eat at McDonald’s frequently enough to use the app or even have an account.

MrGinkgo 2y ago

You save 15% but mcdonalds makes millions off all the data you consent to giving them by downloading the app. I also heard that, buried in the T&C of their mobile app, you basically consent to rescinding your ability to sue them? I'm not trying to pull too much of a gotcha though, I use the app myself.

dartos 2y ago
I don’t think terms and conditions ate powerful enough to prevent you from suing them. That’s what the army of lawyers is for.
satvikpendem 2y ago
> You save 15% but mcdonalds makes millions off all the data you consent to giving them by downloading the app. People always talk about apps "selling your data," and I can understand it in cases like Facebook (and Meta platforms in general) and Google, but in this case, how would it happen that McDonalds "makes millions off all the data you consent to giving them?"
- Aeglaecia 2y ago
  a nicely packaged bundle containing the information of hundreds of millions of customers' travel/spending/lifestyle habits ... would allow a company to sell more shit to those consumers ... so that information is worth money .... especially when collected en masse ...
- autoexec 2y ago
  The last I heard McDonalds said they aren't selling some of your data (like your credit card info or your location data) but that doesn't mean they can't sell other data, sell any of that data at some later date, or that the data won't get leaked or stolen and sold by someone else. Hasn't pretty much everyone gotten several data breach notifications by now?

autoexec 2y ago

PSA: don't install apps for fast food places on your phones. That app collects huge amounts of data about you and they're profiling users including their "preferences, characteristics, psychological trends, predispositions, behavior, attitudes, intelligence, abilities, or aptitudes." It continuously tracks your location even when you aren't using the app or haven't used it in ages. They use your credit card info to track your purchase history/spending habits and they try to determine how much money you have. This seems like a great way to set prices according to how munch money they think you have or based on what you normally purchase. You might end up being charged more for the same items than they're charging the person who pulls in after you. No discount on their shitty food is worth the intimate details of your life. They sure aren't collecting all that information because they want to make less money off of you. Stop giving them the valuable information they need to take more of your money.

lmm 2y ago
The OS won't let them track your location when you're not using it. They'll profile you based on your credit card info whether you use the app or not. And they need bulk data for psychological profiling, it doesn't make any difference whether you as an individual opt in or out. The mom-and-pop places that people who make a fuss about these kind of business practices tend to love do all the things that those people claim to hate - track their customers, try to figure out how much money they have, offer special treatment to particular customers, notice where else their customers spend their time - so I've never quite got what exactly people are objecting to. But hey, if you don't want the discount, more for me.
- autoexec 2y ago
  > The OS won't let them track your location when you're not using it. I can't speak to IOS but it will on android devices (with some limitations https://developer.android.com/about/versions/oreo/background-location-limits https://developer.android.com/about/versions/oreo/background...) If you give an app permission to access nearby wifi devices it can track you that way as well. If you give an app permission to use bluetooth it can track your location using that too. > They'll profile you based on your credit card info whether you use the app or not. They might, but they'll have a lot less data to connect with your purchase history. You consent to a lot more data collection by installing their app than you do just by walking into their store and buying something, > The mom-and-pop places that people who make a fuss about these kind of business practices tend to love do all the things that those people claim to hate - track their customers, try to figure out how much money they have, offer special treatment to particular customers - so I've never quite got what exactly people are objecting to. No one wants to be tracked by mom-and-pop places either. All this data collection means that you aren't getting a discount, you're actually being screwed over and the data they collect will continue to be used against you for the rest of your life in any way that they think will let them take more of your money or would otherwise benefit them. They aren't collecting that data and paying for the collecting/storage/use of that data for your benefit. "Special treatment" doesn't mean what you think it does. This kind of surveillance leads to discriminatory pricing (see for example https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/A-special-price-just-for-you%3A-effects-of-dynamic-on-Priester-Robbert/d24cc89014ab21ead0733d26a797698237f30f45 https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/A-special-price-just-f... and wendy's recent attempt at surge pricing) which companies are desperate to get consumers to accept because it stands to make them much much richer at your expense. Don't fall for this! I promise that you won't feel like you're getting "special treatment" if they get their way.

qp11 2y ago

PSA: learn to cook. savings skyrocket. no apps required.

bravetraveler 2y ago
I'll teach right now: apply hot

alphabettsy 2y ago

I think a better recommendation would be to not eat at McDonald’s frequently enough to use the app or even have an account.