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Yup, my issue with Starlink is giving money to a company owned by Musk. I will avoid that as much as possible.

iknowstuff 2y ago
Both Tesla and SpaceX have an incredibly positive impact on the world so I find this attitude hilarious
theodric 2y ago
Tesla and SpaceX collectively employ 113,000 people, and I really think the story should be more about them than the guy who has the keys to the nicest office in the building. Gwynne Shotwell is a hell of an administrator. Without Starlink, I wouldn't have broadband! Elon Musk makes his questionable opinions public, but we don't know if the Hughes or Chevrolet CEO has bad opinions for which they must be cancelled, because they have PR teams and filters and the sense not to shitpost. It's possible that no product is safe.
- trompetenaccoun 2y ago
  In a liberal and civilized society no one "must be cancelled" for opinions. And I personally much prefer they openly share their convictions than sneakily hiding behind corporate speak. What you're describing is done out of cowardice and greed. Maybe Tesla's stock would be higher if Musk let his PR team do the tweeting, like Bezos does. But why would anyone sensible want to listen to that? They'll say anything as long as it makes their boss look good. More importantly, what kind of person has that kind of wealth and yet is still concerned mainly with the share price and not what their conviction tells them to stand up for? There are more important things in life than money.
  - theodric 2y ago
    Nuance lost while attempting to approach the topic from GP's perspective. I don't personally adhere to cancel mob culture. My point is: they're likely all some variety of cartoon villain, given (my experience of) the sort of people who make it to that level, so singling out a bunch of compelling products because you know one specific dude who is peripherally involved is a socially-inept tosser is disingenuous at best and self-sabotage at worst.
INGSOCIALITE 2y ago
people are allowed to think or say whatever they want to. steve job

Both Tesla and SpaceX have an incredibly positive impact on the world so I find this attitude hilarious

Tesla and SpaceX collectively employ 113,000 people, and I really think the story should be more about them than the guy who has the keys to the nicest office in the building. Gwynne Shotwell is a hell of an administrator. Without Starlink, I wouldn't have broadband! Elon Musk makes his questionable opinions public, but we don't know if the Hughes or Chevrolet CEO has bad opinions for which they must be cancelled, because they have PR teams and filters and the sense not to shitpost. It's possible that no product is safe.

trompetenaccoun 2y ago
In a liberal and civilized society no one "must be cancelled" for opinions. And I personally much prefer they openly share their convictions than sneakily hiding behind corporate speak. What you're describing is done out of cowardice and greed. Maybe Tesla's stock would be higher if Musk let his PR team do the tweeting, like Bezos does. But why would anyone sensible want to listen to that? They'll say anything as long as it makes their boss look good. More importantly, what kind of person has that kind of wealth and yet is still concerned mainly with the share price and not what their conviction tells them to stand up for? There are more important things in life than money.
- theodric 2y ago
  Nuance lost while attempting to approach the topic from GP's perspective. I don't personally adhere to cancel mob culture. My point is: they're likely all some variety of cartoon villain, given (my experience of) the sort of people who make it to that level, so singling out a bunch of compelling products because you know one specific dude who is peripherally involved is a socially-inept tosser is disingenuous at best and self-sabotage at worst.

INGSOCIALITE 2y ago

people are allowed to think or say whatever they want to. steve job