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I even sing the 'abcdefg' song to infer letter sort order.
by lagrange77 2y ago
I even sing the 'abcdefg' song to infer letter sort order.
- arp242 2y agoI generally lose track somewhere after P.
- 082349872349872 2y agoI generally lose track somewhere after "cookie monster": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIRO97dhII https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIRO97dhII
- garaetjjte 2y agoFor long time I thought that I don't know alphabetical order. Unless I realized it's on telephone numpad, and I know that.
- happytoexplain 2y agoI do this too. I can also start at L if my intuition tells me the letter(s) I'm testing come after L. But that's it - I have to start at L or A. I don't know why L and not some other letter.
- retrac 2y agoThe reason for L is probably because of the rhythm of the usual way the song goes. l, m, n... are rushed together because "elemenopee" is easy and fun to say quickly. ... a b c d e f g h / i j / k l m n o p q / r / s t / u / v w / x y and z I don't even need the song for the first couple lines these days!
- eastbound 2y agoProbably also for memorization. If the song were linear, letters would all cuddle together in the little children’s mind. It’s quite funny that, as a French native, we are all taught exactly the same song! Same pace, same tone, same elemenopy, but later in life, somehow y’all just smash tough/thorough/through/trough letters together, and we go on with our hon/hen/heim.
- wizzwizz4 2y ago> same elemenopy Why? The song actually works with French names of letters! a b c d e f g / h i j k l m n / o p q r s t u / v www x y-y z with doublé-vey sung with a swing rhythm (♪. 𝅘𝅥𝅯 ♩)
- eks391 2y agoI've been able to start at A, E, L, or T, and your explanation makes sense. I usually know a letter is near one of those four, but not if it is before or after, so if I am looking for P for example, I'll start with T for a bit, realize I've gone too far, and start over at L in hopes of finding it.
- hadlock 2y agoSo did "twinkle twinkle little star", or the alphabet song come first
- jay_kyburz 2y agoI'm convinced my kids thought lmno was a single letter for a while.
- simonbarker87 2y agoI still do this as well, I distinctly remember a time in my life where that song didn’t make sense to me though for a weird reason. The l,m,n,o,p part is often sung very quickly so to my 5(?) year old brain I never understood where this “elemenopy” business came in and what it had to do with the alphabet. One day it clicked but for a while there I was just along for the ride!
- lagrange77 2y agoI can relate to this kind of confusion. When your brain expects useful information encoded in a detail, BUTT the author just did it for some trivial reason.
- adonese 2y agoI have had this same encounter (in Arabic though). And I still vividly remember when it all made sense (that would be 24 years ago)
- SapporoChris 2y agoIt is delightful to be in a foreign country where English is not primary language but is taught and hear/see a little child rattling off the 'abcedefg' song.
- vundercind 2y agoI don’t count on my fingers, but that, I do. I can think through to some subset of the order to find a target letter but it’s usually faster to just run through the song quickly in my head, from the beginning, so that’s what I do. I mean, it’s like 4s worst-case to find the letter anyway. I can “sing” it in my head fast. Not something I really need to work on making faster.
- DavidPiper 2y agoI like to think of the English alphabet as a singly-linked list. I can mostly start at any letter, but it has to be forwards.