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32 mpg isn't great compared to e.g. a boring Toyota hybrid.
by tonyg 2y ago
32 mpg isn't great compared to e.g. a boring Toyota hybrid.
- potatochup 2y agoAgreed. My 1972 MGB got 28mpg. I realize cars have improved in many ways since then (crash safety, NOx emissions, comfort) but I feel like in 50 years we stopped caring about efficiency as much.
- whaleofatw2022 2y agoMany of the MPG winds of the 90s and 00s were eaten back up by mandated safety standards. A 2020 focus weighs 10-20% more than a 2000 MY one, for example. My 1998 SC2 Weighed ~2400 pounds and got MPG in the low 30s (35+ on the highway). > NOx emissions Managing that often impacts fuel economy. Ask VW group =)
- creato 2y agoYou can also get hybrid crossover SUVs that are going to be off by a similar factor from a hybrid sedan.
- lolinder 2y agoApple to oranges much? If we want to ban all pure ICE vehicles then let's discuss that, but if most "SUV" sales today get comparable MPG to other pure ICE vehicles then it's misleading for people to keep citing the stat that SUV sales are rising with the understanding that this means that average MPG is declining.
- el_duderino_ 2y agoThe posters point was that crossovers are not true SUV’s, they are built on a sedan frame not a truck frame. It is pretty great when compared to the 20mpg average of a Tacoma truck. Hybrids are great, but it is sidestepping the point that the poster was trying to make.
- numpad0 2y agoRAV4 is a Toyota vehicle available as ICE, HV, and PHEV...