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Personal page.. sure. Business? You're a pain to many people and don't care. I live in EU and many US pages just block the whole EU due to GDPR laws... then s

Personal page.. sure. Business? You're a pain to many people and don't care. I live in EU and many US pages just block the whole EU due to GDPR laws... then someone (by mistake) subscribes me to their newsletter, and the "unsubscribe" links leads to "this page is unavalable in EU"? I'll goddamn make sure your domain ends up on every goddamn possible antispam filter I can find.

cdelsolar 2y ago
Why? Are they spam pages?
- ajsnigrutin 2y ago
  For me? Sure. I never subscribed to them. Ans the unsubscribe links doesn't work, probably illegal, although not sure if they can spam an EU citizen from usa, and which/whose/what law are they breaking.
DEADMINCE 2y ago
> I'll goddamn make sure your domain ends up on every goddamn possible antispam filter I can find. Honestly, individuals can't really do much to change the reputation of a domain. Maybe petition your representative to adjust the GDPR so they don't claim it applies globally?
- account42 2y ago
  > Honestly, individuals can't really do much to change the reputation of a domain. Your hosting provider and ISP will see this differently. So will the FTC. > Maybe petition your representative to adjust the GDPR so they don't claim it applies globally? Your butthurt about the GDPR doesn't absolve you from your obligations under the CAN SPAM act.
  - DEADMINCE 2y ago
    > Your hosting provider and ISP will see this differently. So will the FTC. No. They absolutely won't. Not if I'm not breaking any US laws. The EU bitching would have as much impact as a government official from say Narau doing the same. None. > Your butthurt about the GDPR doesn't absolve you from your obligations under the CAN SPAM act. No. You are misunderstanding and conflating things. My point is I can do whatever I want so long as I am in compliance with US law including CAN-SPAM, and even if I violate GDPR as much as I want (again, as long as it doesn't violate US law).
    - ajsnigrutin 2y ago
      It's a greyzone situation, but if you started sending (for me) spam emails to me, and your unsubscribe link doesn't work, because you decided to block the whole eu from all of your services, including the unsubscribe feature, you probably are breaking the US spam laws too.
      - DEADMINCE 2y ago
        I agree that's likely. Then I guess it would matter what recourse the EU citizen would have. They would have to file suit in the US I would think.
jkaplowitz 2y ago
That's often worth an FTC complaint for a CAN-SPAM Act violation: https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/can-spam-act... The FTC wouldn't accept "we didn't want to deal with GDPR" as an excuse for a business violating that law.

cdelsolar 2y ago

Why? Are they spam pages?

ajsnigrutin 2y ago
For me? Sure. I never subscribed to them. Ans the unsubscribe links doesn't work, probably illegal, although not sure if they can spam an EU citizen from usa, and which/whose/what law are they breaking.

DEADMINCE 2y ago

> I'll goddamn make sure your domain ends up on every goddamn possible antispam filter I can find. Honestly, individuals can't really do much to change the reputation of a domain. Maybe petition your representative to adjust the GDPR so they don't claim it applies globally?

account42 2y ago
> Honestly, individuals can't really do much to change the reputation of a domain. Your hosting provider and ISP will see this differently. So will the FTC. > Maybe petition your representative to adjust the GDPR so they don't claim it applies globally? Your butthurt about the GDPR doesn't absolve you from your obligations under the CAN SPAM act.
- DEADMINCE 2y ago
  > Your hosting provider and ISP will see this differently. So will the FTC. No. They absolutely won't. Not if I'm not breaking any US laws. The EU bitching would have as much impact as a government official from say Narau doing the same. None. > Your butthurt about the GDPR doesn't absolve you from your obligations under the CAN SPAM act. No. You are misunderstanding and conflating things. My point is I can do whatever I want so long as I am in compliance with US law including CAN-SPAM, and even if I violate GDPR as much as I want (again, as long as it doesn't violate US law).
  - ajsnigrutin 2y ago
    It's a greyzone situation, but if you started sending (for me) spam emails to me, and your unsubscribe link doesn't work, because you decided to block the whole eu from all of your services, including the unsubscribe feature, you probably are breaking the US spam laws too.
    - DEADMINCE 2y ago
      I agree that's likely. Then I guess it would matter what recourse the EU citizen would have. They would have to file suit in the US I would think.

jkaplowitz 2y ago

That's often worth an FTC complaint for a CAN-SPAM Act violation: https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business https://www.ftc.gov/business-guidance/resources/can-spam-act... The FTC wouldn't accept "we didn't want to deal with GDPR" as an excuse for a business violating that law.