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Volvo's Battery Passport Traces the Supply Chain

20 points by peutetre 2y ago

constantcrying 2y ago
>The AI-based system can track the Volvo’s battery life cycle, prove the origin of battery materials, and show its carbon footprint and recycled content. Can someone please tell me how "AI" made it into that? Seriously I can't fathom the idea. You want trustworthy, accurate information about measurable, objective quantities, why is AI involved?
- tuwtuwtuwtuw 2y ago
  I checked 5 other articles on this topic, and none of them mentioned AI. They did mention blockchain though. It could be that the article author misunderstood it (both terms can probably appear in the buzzword lexicon). With that said, I work on processes where there are strong requirements that data is correct, and we still use a lot of machine learning. As an example, if Volvo use OCR to extract information from paper documents related to origin of materials they can put "Comes with AI"-stamp on it and move on. I don't think there are many large complex system where machine learning can't be of some use. Even if you have an old school audit process, you could use machine learning algorithms to double-check audit reports, for example.
  - constantcrying 2y ago
    Sure, but "AI based"?
    - tuwtuwtuwtuw 2y ago
      I agree, that's odd. I'm betting article author misunderstanding or marketing team eager to add AI wherever there's a slight chance.
lucianbr 2y ago
> Volvo and the London-based tech startup Circulor have designed a “battery passport” What exactly is there to "design", and that on top requires a partnership with a startup? Shouldn't this basically be an audit of the parts in the battery and their sources? A report from the company ERP, mostly.
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  You get an NFT with happy child face because cobalt is outdated material in batteries
moogly 2y ago
> “We are working alongside our main suppliers at all tiers of the supply chain to improve data quality.” But you're using the blockchain? We shouldn't need to trust any third parties, including Circulor, no?

20 points by peutetre 2y ago

>The AI-based system can track the Volvo’s battery life cycle, prove the origin of battery materials, and show its carbon footprint and recycled content. Can someone please tell me how "AI" made it into that? Seriously I can't fathom the idea. You want trustworthy, accurate information about measurable, objective quantities, why is AI involved?

tuwtuwtuwtuw 2y ago
I checked 5 other articles on this topic, and none of them mentioned AI. They did mention blockchain though. It could be that the article author misunderstood it (both terms can probably appear in the buzzword lexicon). With that said, I work on processes where there are strong requirements that data is correct, and we still use a lot of machine learning. As an example, if Volvo use OCR to extract information from paper documents related to origin of materials they can put "Comes with AI"-stamp on it and move on. I don't think there are many large complex system where machine learning can't be of some use. Even if you have an old school audit process, you could use machine learning algorithms to double-check audit reports, for example.
- constantcrying 2y ago
  Sure, but "AI based"?
  - tuwtuwtuwtuw 2y ago
    I agree, that's odd. I'm betting article author misunderstanding or marketing team eager to add AI wherever there's a slight chance.

lucianbr 2y ago

> Volvo and the London-based tech startup Circulor have designed a “battery passport” What exactly is there to "design", and that on top requires a partnership with a startup? Shouldn't this basically be an audit of the parts in the battery and their sources? A report from the company ERP, mostly.

dzhiurgis 2y ago
You get an NFT with happy child face because cobalt is outdated material in batteries

moogly 2y ago

> “We are working alongside our main suppliers at all tiers of the supply chain to improve data quality.” But you're using the blockchain? We shouldn't need to trust any third parties, including Circulor, no?