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It appears some of the people who you can tip on the site actually had the tip jars set up for them without their knowledge. I think this was on HN before about

It appears some of the people who you can tip on the site actually had the tip jars set up for them without their knowledge. I think this was on HN before about why that isn't cool. http://krisstraub.com/2011/11/20/kachingle-and-the-transgression-of-opt-out/ http://krisstraub.com/2011/11/20/kachingle-and-the-transgres...

whit537 14y ago
Thanks for the link. Reading now ...
- whit537 14y ago
  First off: Yes. The premise is that you can tip people without their knowledge, "crowd-sourced genius grants." https://www.gittip.com/about/ https://www.gittip.com/about/ I see a few differences with Kachinga: - With Gittip, recipients receive the full face value of their tips. The donor is responsible for credit card fees. - The fees are minimal: $0.10 + 3.9%. Right now I'm using Samurai for payments, and they charge me $0.10 + 2.3%. My margins are thin. - My margins are not going to be "my" margins. If this gets traction, we're going to organize it as a cooperative, not a corporation. The plan is for everyone who tips through the site to be a member of the cooperative, the purpose of which will be for the escrow of gifts to individuals. - Gittip tipjars are tied to people, not companies or websites (you can currently send tips to Github organization accounts, but that's ticketed to fix: https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/4 https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/4). I can imagine changing that but for now it's designed for people, natural persons.
carols10cents 14y ago
What if you could pledge a tip to someone but your card wouldn't actually be charged until they accepted?
- whit537 14y ago
  Hmmm ... I imagined money accumulating over time until it was significant. Then finding out about it would be like getting a call that you won a genius grant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacArthur_Fellows_Program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacArthur_Fellows_Program I could see this as a possible compromise if opt-out turns out to really suck as bad as with Kachinga.

whit537 14y ago

Thanks for the link. Reading now ...

whit537 14y ago
First off: Yes. The premise is that you can tip people without their knowledge, "crowd-sourced genius grants." https://www.gittip.com/about/ https://www.gittip.com/about/ I see a few differences with Kachinga: - With Gittip, recipients receive the full face value of their tips. The donor is responsible for credit card fees. - The fees are minimal: $0.10 + 3.9%. Right now I'm using Samurai for payments, and they charge me $0.10 + 2.3%. My margins are thin. - My margins are not going to be "my" margins. If this gets traction, we're going to organize it as a cooperative, not a corporation. The plan is for everyone who tips through the site to be a member of the cooperative, the purpose of which will be for the escrow of gifts to individuals. - Gittip tipjars are tied to people, not companies or websites (you can currently send tips to Github organization accounts, but that's ticketed to fix: https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/4 https://github.com/whit537/www.gittip.com/issues/4). I can imagine changing that but for now it's designed for people, natural persons.

carols10cents 14y ago

What if you could pledge a tip to someone but your card wouldn't actually be charged until they accepted?

whit537 14y ago
Hmmm ... I imagined money accumulating over time until it was significant. Then finding out about it would be like getting a call that you won a genius grant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacArthur_Fellows_Program http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacArthur_Fellows_Program I could see this as a possible compromise if opt-out turns out to really suck as bad as with Kachinga.