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Here's a thought. Imagine there's another new way of doing things that quickly becomes pretty much ubiquitous in programming (containers may be a good example?)

Here's a thought. Imagine there's another new way of doing things that quickly becomes pretty much ubiquitous in programming (containers may be a good example?). For those who have already graduated long ago and thus didn't learn that new thing in university are you seriously concerned about the people graduating not being rote taught this particular technology? Git isn't even 20 years old. I graduated before that. I learnt the basics of version control in a day and searched to unblock myself when needed without fuss. It's not a particularly big deal. When i read things like this I'm extremely concerned and embarrassed for the people demanding new graduates be rote taught specific tech stacks. That's the real concern here. The projection from having so little faith in their own ability to learn they can't even see that something like git is going to be one of the many things needing to be learnt on a new job.

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the_snooze 2y ago
>When i read things like this I'm extremely concerned and embarrassed for the people demanding new graduates be rote taught specific tech stacks. I think that's too narrow of a reading. There are some foundational practical tools and concepts that are broadly applicable to all computing tasks: version control, command line file-and-folder navigation, quick-and-dirty sripting. These don't (and shouldn't) need to be "rote-taught." But they can absolutely be integrated into existing coursework so students learn how to use them in context. In a data structures class? Run the lab work in Linux and C++ with basic makefiles. Have a compilers course? Offer the skeleton code for the parser as a git repository and submit via merge request.
stale2002 2y ago
> the people demanding new graduates be rote taught specific tech stacks If people were graduating from college with a CS degree, and didn't know how to use a keyboard and mouse, then yes Id advocate for them to be "rote taught" basic keyboard and mouse skills that they should have learned in elementary school. It would show that something is extremely wrong going on if the most basic of skill set isn't know by people who's entire field of study involves computers, and didn't know how basic interactions with a computer work.

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the_snooze 2y ago

>When i read things like this I'm extremely concerned and embarrassed for the people demanding new graduates be rote taught specific tech stacks. I think that's too narrow of a reading. There are some foundational practical tools and concepts that are broadly applicable to all computing tasks: version control, command line file-and-folder navigation, quick-and-dirty sripting. These don't (and shouldn't) need to be "rote-taught." But they can absolutely be integrated into existing coursework so students learn how to use them in context. In a data structures class? Run the lab work in Linux and C++ with basic makefiles. Have a compilers course? Offer the skeleton code for the parser as a git repository and submit via merge request.

stale2002 2y ago

> the people demanding new graduates be rote taught specific tech stacks If people were graduating from college with a CS degree, and didn't know how to use a keyboard and mouse, then yes Id advocate for them to be "rote taught" basic keyboard and mouse skills that they should have learned in elementary school. It would show that something is extremely wrong going on if the most basic of skill set isn't know by people who's entire field of study involves computers, and didn't know how basic interactions with a computer work.