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Can’t wait for OpenAI to settle with The New York Times. For a billion dollars no less.

by skilled 2y ago

brookst 2y ago
Only reason OpenAI would do that would be to create a barrier for smaller entrants.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > Only reason OpenAI would do that would be to create a barrier for smaller entrants Only? No. Not even main. The main reason would be to halt discovery and setting a precedent that would fuel not only further litigation but also, potentially, legislation. That said, OpenAI should spin it as that master-of-the-universe take.
  - monocasa 2y ago
    A billion dollar settlement is more than enough to fuel further litigation.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > billion dollar settlement is more than enough to fuel further litigation The choice isn’t between a settlement and no settlement. It’s between settlement and fighting in court. Binding precedent and a public right increase the risks and costs to OpenAI, particularly if it looks like they’ll lose.
      - monocasa 2y ago
        Right, but a billion dollars to a relative small fry in the publishing industry (even online only) like the ny times is chum in the water. The next six publishers are going to be looking for $100B and probably have the funds for better lawyers. At some point these are going to hit the courts, an NY Times probably makes sense as the plaintiff as opposed to one of the larger publishing houses.
        JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > ny times is chum in the water The Times has a lauder litigation team. Their finances are good and their revenue sources diverse. They’re not aching to strike a deal. > NY Times probably makes sense as the plaintiff as opposed to one of the larger publishing houses Why? Especially if this goes to a jury.
sebzim4500 2y ago
Settling for a billion dollars would be insane. They'd immediately get sued by everyone who ever posted anything on the internet.
insane_dreamer 2y ago
I, on the other hand, hope NYT refuses a settlement and OpenAI loses in court.
- skilled 2y ago
  Same, for sure!
- int_19h 2y ago
  Be careful what you wish for, because, depending on how broad the reasoning in such a decision would be, it is not impossible that the precedent would be used to then target ad blockers and similar software.
  - insane_dreamer 2y ago
    Fair point, but it's a risk I'd be willing to take.

Can’t wait for OpenAI to settle with The New York Times. For a billion dollars no less.

brookst 2y ago

Only reason OpenAI would do that would be to create a barrier for smaller entrants.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Only reason OpenAI would do that would be to create a barrier for smaller entrants Only? No. Not even main. The main reason would be to halt discovery and setting a precedent that would fuel not only further litigation but also, potentially, legislation. That said, OpenAI should spin it as that master-of-the-universe take.
- monocasa 2y ago
  A billion dollar settlement is more than enough to fuel further litigation.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > billion dollar settlement is more than enough to fuel further litigation The choice isn’t between a settlement and no settlement. It’s between settlement and fighting in court. Binding precedent and a public right increase the risks and costs to OpenAI, particularly if it looks like they’ll lose.
    - monocasa 2y ago
      Right, but a billion dollars to a relative small fry in the publishing industry (even online only) like the ny times is chum in the water. The next six publishers are going to be looking for $100B and probably have the funds for better lawyers. At some point these are going to hit the courts, an NY Times probably makes sense as the plaintiff as opposed to one of the larger publishing houses.
      - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
        > ny times is chum in the water The Times has a lauder litigation team. Their finances are good and their revenue sources diverse. They’re not aching to strike a deal. > NY Times probably makes sense as the plaintiff as opposed to one of the larger publishing houses Why? Especially if this goes to a jury.

sebzim4500 2y ago

Settling for a billion dollars would be insane. They'd immediately get sued by everyone who ever posted anything on the internet.

insane_dreamer 2y ago

I, on the other hand, hope NYT refuses a settlement and OpenAI loses in court.

skilled 2y ago
Same, for sure!
int_19h 2y ago
Be careful what you wish for, because, depending on how broad the reasoning in such a decision would be, it is not impossible that the precedent would be used to then target ad blockers and similar software.
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  Fair point, but it's a risk I'd be willing to take.