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It's been nearly 8 years now and the elite class still seems reluctant to come to grips with the fact that they lost an election to a boorish gameshow host not
by TheBlight 2y ago
It's been nearly 8 years now and the elite class still seems reluctant to come to grips with the fact that they lost an election to a boorish gameshow host not because of foreign adversaries or clever marketing but because many people not in their social circle decided they preferred him to another political dynasty that didn't appear to represent their interests -- and in fact made it a point to openly despise these voters publicly by calling them deplorable. It isn't rocket science.
- ethbr1 2y agoGranted, Trump made it easy to point the finger at him, but agreed that the lack of Democrat self reflection over how the uglier impacts of globalism on the middle class drove the 2016 election result was ridiculous. And similarly, how the taken-for-granted poor rural and evangelical vote upended the Republican party in the primaries. Political parties ignore blocks of constituents at their peril -- and that's always been the strength of democracy.
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- krapp 2y ago>and in fact made it a point to openly despise these voters publicly by calling them deplorable. Nope. Hillary Clinton was specifically calling out the racists and bigots within the Trump camp, not all Trump supporters. Which is obvious to anyone who bothers to read the actual quote. It isn't complex or nuanced, or even that long. And I don't know why Trump supporters still insist on believing otherwise, since one would expect that they would want to distance themselves from the bad elements within their party. I can only assume they find solidarity with such elements to be more important than conceding that a Democrat might actually have a point. Ah well. You sleep with the pigs, you wake up smelling like shit.
- TheBlight 2y agoThat part of my comment was probably the least interesting but for the record, her exact words were that half of his supporters were deplorable.
- rootusrootus 2y agoShe did say half, which may be an overestimate, but she then provided a description. The rest of the supporters gleefully adopting the label, knowing the definition, is ... interesting.
- krapp 2y agoIt's hyperbole, and not mathematically accurate, but not entirely wrong. That white supremacists flocked to Trumpism like a moth to a flame is a well documented phenomenon, and the preference of Trump supporters to prefer to blame the messenger is telling.
- rootusrootus 2y ago> calling them deplorable As I recall, she was actually pretty specific in who she called deplorable, and it was an apt description. "They're racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic". Saying that was half of Trump supporters was hyperbolic and perhaps inaccurate, but MAGA world adopted 'deplorable' as a badge of honor of their own free will. Do you think they indeed self-identify as racist, sexist, homophobic, or Islamaphobic? I can only speak for the people I know personally, but that label does seem to fit. When you think you are being oppressed by "the alphabet mafia" you may want to take a step back.
- TheBlight 2y ago>Saying that was half of Trump supporters was hyperbolic and perhaps inaccurate Sounds like we're in agreement that this was a strategic misstep.