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Trump is easy to hate. It’s just a small step to hating anyone that supports him.

by obiefernandez 2y ago

brookst 2y ago
To the extent one hates those who behave badly, it’s probably normal to dislike those who celebrate bad behavior.
krapp 2y ago
But to be fair, Trump's supporters hated everyone else first. That's their whole shtick.
delichon 2y ago
Hate is transpartisan. It's largely recognition that someone else has values inimical to your own. That makes the impulse to hate fairly symmetrical. IMHO if you understand Nazi values and don't hate them, you're hate-deficient. So the total amount of hate someone carries around is a bad proxy for the quality of their values. It may be a better proxy for moral awareness or sensitivity.
- AnimalMuppet 2y ago
  "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." - Jesus Hate may have a place in a somewhat-developed moral system, but in a better-developed one, it's seen as a weakness in ourselves. Note well: That doesn't mean that you do nothing and let Nazis run over other people. You still have to oppose them. But guard yourself against hatred when you do. Hatred will try to turn you into a Nazi-but-with-the-other-flag if you let it. (That is, one could have all the Nazi values, just point them at different people than the Nazis do.)
  - delichon 2y ago
    There can be too much hate like there can be too much oxygen. The dose makes the poison. Saying hate is bad is like saying fuel is bad because too much will flood the engine. Hate, at the right temperature and flow rate, fuels our response to injustice. A reservoir of it is only as good or bad as the purpose of the engine that it fuels.
smitty1e 2y ago
> Trump is easy to hate. The mainstream media has instructed the hatred. There is plenty to criticize about Trump in a dispassionate manner. For example, he is no financial reformer, and offers no specifics about reforming much of anything. Were Trump's detractors interested in offering a sound reform platform, they would watch the MAGA crowd drop the Donald like a bad habit. Yet that reform platform is nowhere in view. Curious.

Trump is easy to hate. It’s just a small step to hating anyone that supports him.

brookst 2y ago

To the extent one hates those who behave badly, it’s probably normal to dislike those who celebrate bad behavior.

krapp 2y ago

But to be fair, Trump's supporters hated everyone else first. That's their whole shtick.

delichon 2y ago

Hate is transpartisan. It's largely recognition that someone else has values inimical to your own. That makes the impulse to hate fairly symmetrical. IMHO if you understand Nazi values and don't hate them, you're hate-deficient. So the total amount of hate someone carries around is a bad proxy for the quality of their values. It may be a better proxy for moral awareness or sensitivity.

AnimalMuppet 2y ago
"But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." - Jesus Hate may have a place in a somewhat-developed moral system, but in a better-developed one, it's seen as a weakness in ourselves. Note well: That doesn't mean that you do nothing and let Nazis run over other people. You still have to oppose them. But guard yourself against hatred when you do. Hatred will try to turn you into a Nazi-but-with-the-other-flag if you let it. (That is, one could have all the Nazi values, just point them at different people than the Nazis do.)
- delichon 2y ago
  There can be too much hate like there can be too much oxygen. The dose makes the poison. Saying hate is bad is like saying fuel is bad because too much will flood the engine. Hate, at the right temperature and flow rate, fuels our response to injustice. A reservoir of it is only as good or bad as the purpose of the engine that it fuels.

smitty1e 2y ago

> Trump is easy to hate. The mainstream media has instructed the hatred. There is plenty to criticize about Trump in a dispassionate manner. For example, he is no financial reformer, and offers no specifics about reforming much of anything. Were Trump's detractors interested in offering a sound reform platform, they would watch the MAGA crowd drop the Donald like a bad habit. Yet that reform platform is nowhere in view. Curious.