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AI in publishing is already a huge problem. https://qz.com/for-dummies-books-publisher-john-wiley-sons-ai-deal-1851539065 https://qz.com/for-dummies-books-publ

• keiferski 2y ago
  Publishing an encyclopedia is a considerably more lengthy process than publishing papers in journals. I also don't think you actually read the articles you linked to. The first one says that the publisher is planning on using AI, it doesn't say that they have already. As I said in the initial comment: > I wouldn’t expect a publisher of encyclopedias to implement AI tools for years. Meaning, an encyclopedia bought today won't be using these tools. Which is what the grandfather comment was about.
  • hammyhavoc 2y ago
    I'll contextualize it better for you as I don't think you understood the unifying theme of two Wiley-related articles: May 16th: Wiley shuts down journals over AI use: https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/16/wiley_journals_ai/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/16/wiley_journals_ai/ June 13th: Wiley book series is going to be using AI: https://qz.com/for-dummies-books-publisher-john-wiley-sons-ai-deal-1851539065 https://qz.com/for-dummies-books-publisher-john-wiley-sons-a... My interest in Wiley is that my late uncle helped them to "go digital" decades ago, and remained remotely as a proofreader, editor and fact-checker for physics titles. He would be spinning in his grave if he weren't cremated. Honestly depressing to see it happen. Ten bucks says there's LLM-generated content in encyclopedias today because LLMs have been mainstream for a few years now, and even prominent scientists and experts have been caught out "writing" with LLMs. https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.01268 https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.01268 Why wouldn't there be LLM-generated content in encyclopedias today if it's been (ab)used for several years now? Seems a little naive, especially when even Wiley (wow) is openly embracing AI now with a sudden heelturn.
    • keiferski 2y ago
      Again, because publishing to an online-only journal is not the same as publishing a paper encyclopedia. The former has far, far less resources required and processes required in order to publish it. The journals shut down were not particularly well-regarded ones and they were known as paper mills prior to them using AI. The Dummies series is hardly a paragon of excellence either. As I said, I wouldn't be surprised if these companies start using LLMs in the near future, but as I said in another comment, I think the average tech person vastly overestimates how much the average person keeps up-to-date on the latest LLM developments. They also tend to overhype how much society will be transformed by tech, largely because getting VC dollars depends on that hype. These things are still in their infancy and I'd expect them to be used soon, but the people running encyclopedias are not so up-to-date on the latest LLM developments to have already incorporated them into publications planned years ago.