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In an all technical team, sure. But any time you have to interface with normals, tools like Scrum are often the only thing standing between you and "That page t

In an all technical team, sure. But any time you have to interface with normals, tools like Scrum are often the only thing standing between you and "That page that gets their facebook photos and creates a PDF collage out of them will only take you a few hours right?"

tferris 14y ago
Scrum as an interface?? You are talking about good specifications/good requirements. For precise requirements I don't need Scrum or any other esoteric methodology. I just need some people who are able express themselves precisely, clearly and who can put their specifications in some tool and maintain a proper dialogue with devs (i.e. Pivotal). They don't need weird names, roles and daily standups. Scrum is heavy routine which actually wears people out and invented by people who desperately want to upvalue their shitty projectmanagement job. The key is: just try to keep people out of your project and company who have absolutely no clue about tech/Internet/online.
- gouranga 14y ago
  I'd hire you in a flash. You were hit with the clue stick at birth!
  - Arelius 14y ago
    Let's be honest, the clue stick beatings probabally came later in life.
- alinajaf 14y ago
  > i.e. Pivotal OK, so what you call Pivotal, I call Scrum. > The key is: just try to keep people out of your project and company who have absolutely no clue about tech/Internet/online. I'll try, thanks. As I said with non-technical people, some sort of process (call it what you like) helps.
gouranga 14y ago
The normals should be talking to you rather than sending you crap. Its your opportunity to make sure their brains have been translated properly.
- alinajaf 14y ago
  This comment sounds exactly like the sort of thing you would read in an 'Agile Project Management' book. I think it's just fashionable to rail against agile now, when we've already incorporated all of the good stuff into our processes as though it were the way we always worked.

tferris 14y ago

Scrum as an interface?? You are talking about good specifications/good requirements. For precise requirements I don't need Scrum or any other esoteric methodology. I just need some people who are able express themselves precisely, clearly and who can put their specifications in some tool and maintain a proper dialogue with devs (i.e. Pivotal). They don't need weird names, roles and daily standups. Scrum is heavy routine which actually wears people out and invented by people who desperately want to upvalue their shitty projectmanagement job. The key is: just try to keep people out of your project and company who have absolutely no clue about tech/Internet/online.

gouranga 14y ago
I'd hire you in a flash. You were hit with the clue stick at birth!
- Arelius 14y ago
  Let's be honest, the clue stick beatings probabally came later in life.
alinajaf 14y ago
> i.e. Pivotal OK, so what you call Pivotal, I call Scrum. > The key is: just try to keep people out of your project and company who have absolutely no clue about tech/Internet/online. I'll try, thanks. As I said with non-technical people, some sort of process (call it what you like) helps.

gouranga 14y ago

The normals should be talking to you rather than sending you crap. Its your opportunity to make sure their brains have been translated properly.

alinajaf 14y ago
This comment sounds exactly like the sort of thing you would read in an 'Agile Project Management' book. I think it's just fashionable to rail against agile now, when we've already incorporated all of the good stuff into our processes as though it were the way we always worked.