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I was surprised to find out that the fail rate is still pretty high, about 10 percent regretting doing it

by julienreszka 2y ago

ekianjo 2y ago
what are the reasons to regret it?
- BlackjackCF 2y ago
  Some people have long term negative effects from LASIK like extremely dry eyes, halos, loss of night vision, etc. These effects vary in severity. A very, very, very small percentage of people who got LASIK had such severe side effects that they committed suicide. Also LASIK isn’t always going to correct vision to 20/20. Some people end up close.
  - Euphorbium 2y ago
    I had it, or a newer version of it. I had pain before , which I considered to be a migraine, triggered by bad vision in one eye. But the vision was very close to perfect, one clinic refused to do it. After the procedure, and some amount of healing time the vision was perfect, but the pain came back and became stronger. So I suffered strong migraine like pain for years. Untill last month somebody here recommended NAC (N-acetyl-cysteine) supplement, I tried it and it worked within days. Turns out it was just dry eye. I did not make the connection, because eye drops did not help me, they seemed to make it worse. i was not missing in tears, but the eye lubricant which retains the tears on the surface, and multiple doctors missed it.
    - M0r13n 2y ago
      I never heard about the supplementation of N-acetyl-cysteine with regards to the treatment of dry eye disease (DED). Could you elaborate on your experiences with the supplementation of NAD? I am unable to find any real useful information in the web
      - Euphorbium 2y ago
        This one was probably best https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8234027/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8234027/ Also read the wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_eye_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_eye_syndrome
        M0r13n 2y ago
        Thank you!
- metadat 2y ago
  It can damage your eye If the surgeon takes out too much or too little tissue, and make vision worse (astigmatism.) > LASIK has an excellent safety profile with a low complication rate. In fact, LASIK is one of the safest elective surgical procedures available today, with a complication rate estimated to be less than 1%.
- amonith 2y ago
  Taran (ex LTT member) has an excellent video on it as he unfortunately experiences negative side effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQDAXSbwhR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQDAXSbwhR0 Edit: I misremembered, he got PRK, but he does talk about consequences of both methods.
  - tristanj 2y ago
    Taran had very strong myopia, with his eyes at -10.00 and -8.50 before the operation. It's not surprising he's dealing with vision issues like starbursts now. The higher the degree of myopia, the more material in the eye they need to remove, which means a higher chance of side effects. My friends I know who got LASIK had low/medium myopia and didn't end up with long-lasting side effects like Taran. And the starbursts are much smaller and less noticeable in size.
- mgrandl 2y ago
  There is no way to prove it, but I am pretty sure I developed Keratoconus due to Lasik.
  - mbana 2y ago
    Are you attempting to fix it? I am tempted to get a contact lense inserted into one eye to correct it. I think I developed it as due to Lasik, but it only occurred in my left eye. My right eye is still good.
    - mgrandl 2y ago
      I only got CXL. After that experience, I am not too tempted to mess with my eyes anymore :(
  - raverbashing 2y ago
    Because most likely that was only the trigger Keratoconus has a strong genetic component. And should have been screened (using the corneal scan) prior to surgery But of course a surface that is frail is going to become more frail after surgery
    - mgrandl 2y ago
      There was screening. They said the cornea was a bit weak, but still fine… Last time I checked it wasn’t yet declared a genetic thing and there is no history of Keratoconus in my family.
- julienreszka 2y ago
  There was a FDA document draft released in 2022, page 14 has examples, page 17 has illustrated examples https://www.fda.gov/media/160239/download https://www.fda.gov/media/160239/download
epups 2y ago
No, it's actually only about 1% that do: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4302464/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4302464/
- julienreszka 2y ago
  I'm not denying that that's what the webpage says but the page says also it's from 2015 so almost a decade old. We have more data now.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - epups 2y ago
    It would be simply stupid that we got so much worse at this technique in the past 10 years. You are welcome to post a link to your data source here, you already had two opportunities to do so.

I was surprised to find out that the fail rate is still pretty high, about 10 percent regretting doing it

ekianjo 2y ago

what are the reasons to regret it?

BlackjackCF 2y ago
Some people have long term negative effects from LASIK like extremely dry eyes, halos, loss of night vision, etc. These effects vary in severity. A very, very, very small percentage of people who got LASIK had such severe side effects that they committed suicide. Also LASIK isn’t always going to correct vision to 20/20. Some people end up close.
- Euphorbium 2y ago
  I had it, or a newer version of it. I had pain before , which I considered to be a migraine, triggered by bad vision in one eye. But the vision was very close to perfect, one clinic refused to do it. After the procedure, and some amount of healing time the vision was perfect, but the pain came back and became stronger. So I suffered strong migraine like pain for years. Untill last month somebody here recommended NAC (N-acetyl-cysteine) supplement, I tried it and it worked within days. Turns out it was just dry eye. I did not make the connection, because eye drops did not help me, they seemed to make it worse. i was not missing in tears, but the eye lubricant which retains the tears on the surface, and multiple doctors missed it.
  - M0r13n 2y ago
    I never heard about the supplementation of N-acetyl-cysteine with regards to the treatment of dry eye disease (DED). Could you elaborate on your experiences with the supplementation of NAD? I am unable to find any real useful information in the web
    - Euphorbium 2y ago
      This one was probably best https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8234027/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8234027/ Also read the wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_eye_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_eye_syndrome
      - M0r13n 2y ago
        Thank you!
metadat 2y ago
It can damage your eye If the surgeon takes out too much or too little tissue, and make vision worse (astigmatism.) > LASIK has an excellent safety profile with a low complication rate. In fact, LASIK is one of the safest elective surgical procedures available today, with a complication rate estimated to be less than 1%.
amonith 2y ago
Taran (ex LTT member) has an excellent video on it as he unfortunately experiences negative side effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQDAXSbwhR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQDAXSbwhR0 Edit: I misremembered, he got PRK, but he does talk about consequences of both methods.
- tristanj 2y ago
  Taran had very strong myopia, with his eyes at -10.00 and -8.50 before the operation. It's not surprising he's dealing with vision issues like starbursts now. The higher the degree of myopia, the more material in the eye they need to remove, which means a higher chance of side effects. My friends I know who got LASIK had low/medium myopia and didn't end up with long-lasting side effects like Taran. And the starbursts are much smaller and less noticeable in size.
mgrandl 2y ago
There is no way to prove it, but I am pretty sure I developed Keratoconus due to Lasik.
- mbana 2y ago
  Are you attempting to fix it? I am tempted to get a contact lense inserted into one eye to correct it. I think I developed it as due to Lasik, but it only occurred in my left eye. My right eye is still good.
  - mgrandl 2y ago
    I only got CXL. After that experience, I am not too tempted to mess with my eyes anymore :(
- raverbashing 2y ago
  Because most likely that was only the trigger Keratoconus has a strong genetic component. And should have been screened (using the corneal scan) prior to surgery But of course a surface that is frail is going to become more frail after surgery
  - mgrandl 2y ago
    There was screening. They said the cornea was a bit weak, but still fine… Last time I checked it wasn’t yet declared a genetic thing and there is no history of Keratoconus in my family.
julienreszka 2y ago
There was a FDA document draft released in 2022, page 14 has examples, page 17 has illustrated examples https://www.fda.gov/media/160239/download https://www.fda.gov/media/160239/download

epups 2y ago

No, it's actually only about 1% that do: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4302464/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4302464/

julienreszka 2y ago
I'm not denying that that's what the webpage says but the page says also it's from 2015 so almost a decade old. We have more data now.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]
- epups 2y ago
  It would be simply stupid that we got so much worse at this technique in the past 10 years. You are welcome to post a link to your data source here, you already had two opportunities to do so.