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My opinion is that it's easy to get the impression it's a bubble because of the army of useless stuff that comes out of it (including the horrific cancer chatbo

My opinion is that it's easy to get the impression it's a bubble because of the army of useless stuff that comes out of it (including the horrific cancer chatbots) But at the same time it is going to drastically change the way people work. In a very close future every single programmer is going to have chatgpt open. Every single marketer, researcher, lawyer, doctor etc... It's a revolution the same scale of internet itself. Everybody was on google everyday at some point, everybody will be on an AI at some point (if not most of the time they interact with a device)

DeepYogurt 2y ago
> It's a revolution the same scale of internet itself. Everybody was on google everyday at some point, everybody will be on an AI at some point (if not most of the time they interact with a device) Agreed that chatbots will change things. Hard disagree that it's on the scale of the internet. The internet at large touches way more than the habits of white collar workers
- davidguetta 2y ago
  You'll literally be talking to some form of AI for each interaction on the net at some point in the future.
  - hammyhavoc 2y ago
    Bollocks. Absurdly inefficient. Where's all this energy and money for it going to come from?
  - throwawa14223 2y ago
    For what? Do you see LLMs replacing HTTP? Search Engines? Why would I want to?
    - davidguetta 2y ago
      apps
mcnamaratw 2y ago
It’s easy to forget this, but what we’re calling AI is chat bots.
OJFord 2y ago
> In a very close future every single programmer is going to have chatgpt open. I thought that for a little bit, paid for it for several months, but it's not enough better imo - and the hallucination rabbit holes burn harder than the productive chats make up for. But something like it probably, it just might be harder to say oh yeah LLMs did that it wasn't over hyped after all. Augmented search, or just improvements to search with a more familiar presentation. Summarise the small amount of information from blogspam and collapse them all, turn a NL question into a few different salient keyword searches, that sort of thing. I haven't tried Kagi's AI yet (I've only used it at all for a few searches while DDG was down recently) but maybe they're doing something interesting or worth watching at least.
l33t7332273 2y ago
You’re right that it’s a Google replacement, but it’s not much more than that.
- taurath 2y ago
  Imagine if Google search had improved rather than gotten worse over the last 5 years, there would be even less than a gap
asadotzler 2y ago
Maybe a Google scale revolution, but internet scale revolution, that's just silly.
hammyhavoc 2y ago
If I saw any lawyer or doctor using it in a professional context then I would stop using their services immediately. The amount of bad information it hallucinates is not something that's worth paying someone to be a middleman doing data entry on. Their job is meant to be knowing this stuff, if they need an LLM as a crutch then they're not good at their job.
- Izkata 2y ago
  I know there was at least one lawyer that got in trouble for citing cases that don't exist, because they trusted ChatGPT was telling the truth.
  - hammyhavoc 2y ago
    Precisely! If Google tells people to drink urine for kidney issues or kill themselves, I wouldn't trust any healthcare "professional" that needs an LLM when theres countless resources available for figuring out contraindications et al. The information resources already exist, if people can't be bothered to access them the old-fashioned way that guarantees accuracy then they're not fit for purpose in their role, and should be fired on the spot. Also heard about accountants doing maths in ChatGPT—it ain't Wolfram Alpha lol.
- davidguetta 2y ago
  you're insane if you think all doctors are competent to the extent they would need a refresher with chatgpt not to mention rare diseases that are most of the time overlooked by many doctors before one guy finds it, or the sick guy himself by going on internet
xigoi 2y ago
> In a very close future every single programmer is going to have chatgpt open. Hell will freeze over before I consider using proprietary software for programming.

DeepYogurt 2y ago

> It's a revolution the same scale of internet itself. Everybody was on google everyday at some point, everybody will be on an AI at some point (if not most of the time they interact with a device) Agreed that chatbots will change things. Hard disagree that it's on the scale of the internet. The internet at large touches way more than the habits of white collar workers

davidguetta 2y ago
You'll literally be talking to some form of AI for each interaction on the net at some point in the future.
- hammyhavoc 2y ago
  Bollocks. Absurdly inefficient. Where's all this energy and money for it going to come from?
- throwawa14223 2y ago
  For what? Do you see LLMs replacing HTTP? Search Engines? Why would I want to?
  - davidguetta 2y ago
    apps

mcnamaratw 2y ago

It’s easy to forget this, but what we’re calling AI is chat bots.

OJFord 2y ago

> In a very close future every single programmer is going to have chatgpt open. I thought that for a little bit, paid for it for several months, but it's not enough better imo - and the hallucination rabbit holes burn harder than the productive chats make up for. But something like it probably, it just might be harder to say oh yeah LLMs did that it wasn't over hyped after all. Augmented search, or just improvements to search with a more familiar presentation. Summarise the small amount of information from blogspam and collapse them all, turn a NL question into a few different salient keyword searches, that sort of thing. I haven't tried Kagi's AI yet (I've only used it at all for a few searches while DDG was down recently) but maybe they're doing something interesting or worth watching at least.

l33t7332273 2y ago

You’re right that it’s a Google replacement, but it’s not much more than that.

taurath 2y ago
Imagine if Google search had improved rather than gotten worse over the last 5 years, there would be even less than a gap

asadotzler 2y ago

Maybe a Google scale revolution, but internet scale revolution, that's just silly.

hammyhavoc 2y ago

If I saw any lawyer or doctor using it in a professional context then I would stop using their services immediately. The amount of bad information it hallucinates is not something that's worth paying someone to be a middleman doing data entry on. Their job is meant to be knowing this stuff, if they need an LLM as a crutch then they're not good at their job.

Izkata 2y ago
I know there was at least one lawyer that got in trouble for citing cases that don't exist, because they trusted ChatGPT was telling the truth.
- hammyhavoc 2y ago
  Precisely! If Google tells people to drink urine for kidney issues or kill themselves, I wouldn't trust any healthcare "professional" that needs an LLM when theres countless resources available for figuring out contraindications et al. The information resources already exist, if people can't be bothered to access them the old-fashioned way that guarantees accuracy then they're not fit for purpose in their role, and should be fired on the spot. Also heard about accountants doing maths in ChatGPT—it ain't Wolfram Alpha lol.
davidguetta 2y ago
you're insane if you think all doctors are competent to the extent they would need a refresher with chatgpt not to mention rare diseases that are most of the time overlooked by many doctors before one guy finds it, or the sick guy himself by going on internet

xigoi 2y ago

> In a very close future every single programmer is going to have chatgpt open. Hell will freeze over before I consider using proprietary software for programming.