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Of course there is a legitimate reason for having Nakasone on the board. OpenAI is highly sensitive to regulation which is why they have such a large lobbying

Of course there is a legitimate reason for having Nakasone on the board. OpenAI is highly sensitive to regulation which is why they have such a large lobbying team trying to push the US government in their direction. He (a) brings political connections and (b) gives confidence that any advancements won't threaten US national security. It is pretty common amongst enterprise boards. The reality is that the perceptions of what AI can do is impacting the world far more than what it can actually do.

bagels 2y ago
If you want to sell to the government, this is also a good idea.
- contingencies 2y ago
  Let's crowdsource some prompt engineering to win an election.
- threeseed 2y ago
  According to the OpenAI CTO, ChatGPT5 is not going to break new ground. So if you were Sam the smart thing to do is to get your platform embedded absolutely everywhere before the heat starts to come out of this iteration of AI.
  - IAmGraydon 2y ago
    >According to the OpenAI CTO, ChatGPT5 is not going to break new ground. Source?
    - threeseed 2y ago
      "Mira Murati says the AI models that OpenAI have in their labs are not much more advanced than those which are publicly available." https://x.com/tsarnick/status/1801022339162800336?s=46 https://x.com/tsarnick/status/1801022339162800336?s=46
      - hughesjj 2y ago
        I mean I think gpt4 from a year ago is more advanced that what we have available publicly, so for my fellows in the peanut gallery I just want to call out that 'much more advanced' is a pretty subjective classification
    - JSDevOps 2y ago
      Is using Google still a thing lol? It was a common quote about 2 weeks ago wasn’t it?
tmpz22 2y ago
Reminds me of Henry Kissinger and others being put on the Theranos board. How do we know these board seats are real and not just rubber stamping everything for the free pay check?
- rchaud 2y ago
  Theranos' board had former generals on it, the plan was for them to open doors to getting Theranos products sold to the military.
  - Log_out_ 2y ago
    Theranos would have made exellent military gear. I can already see the fieldtest machines, printing out "not software as a service" related on every patients results. All thats missing is a forward assist..
jlaporte 2y ago
Yup. And aside from being NSA director he was Commander of U.S. Cyber Command, experience highly relevant to both OpenAI's security and safety posture, and to selling to government and defense buyers.
pseudalopex 2y ago
It is common. Its legitimacy is controversial.
squigz 2y ago
> The reality is that the perceptions of what AI can do is impacting the world far more than what it can actually do. Could you elaborate on this? What impact is the perception of what AI can do having? And what impact is it actually having?
- jononor 2y ago
  Not parent, just giving my opinion. The perception of what it may become is causing pressure to change wide reaching laws and legal practice. A) Copyright. The AI companies are blatantly disregarding practically everyones copyright when they train on all the data they can find online. The rights holders have not given them permission to do so. B) Privacy. Companies are just taking all the data of their customers and using for training. This is directly in opposition with GDPR, recently established in the Eurozone. Companies, notably Meta, are arguing - oh but AI is so important, that we do not have to ask for users consent. C) Compute/algorithms. Regulations on "AI" itself. With several actors, notably OpenAI/Altman saying it is so dangerous that only corporations like them can do it responsibly, aiming to do regulatory capture which benefits them. Large forces from the biggest companies in the world are attempting to change the legal landscape, and manipulate the perception of politicians and the public to ensure sufficient support to get the changes through.
beefnugs 2y ago
The most charitable positive spin on this is that his connections will help stop government from going fact-less banhammer on AI in general. But jesus I would assume most peoples brains can go real negative on this one.

bagels 2y ago

If you want to sell to the government, this is also a good idea.

contingencies 2y ago
Let's crowdsource some prompt engineering to win an election.
threeseed 2y ago
According to the OpenAI CTO, ChatGPT5 is not going to break new ground. So if you were Sam the smart thing to do is to get your platform embedded absolutely everywhere before the heat starts to come out of this iteration of AI.
- IAmGraydon 2y ago
  >According to the OpenAI CTO, ChatGPT5 is not going to break new ground. Source?
  - threeseed 2y ago
    "Mira Murati says the AI models that OpenAI have in their labs are not much more advanced than those which are publicly available." https://x.com/tsarnick/status/1801022339162800336?s=46 https://x.com/tsarnick/status/1801022339162800336?s=46
    - hughesjj 2y ago
      I mean I think gpt4 from a year ago is more advanced that what we have available publicly, so for my fellows in the peanut gallery I just want to call out that 'much more advanced' is a pretty subjective classification
  - JSDevOps 2y ago
    Is using Google still a thing lol? It was a common quote about 2 weeks ago wasn’t it?

tmpz22 2y ago

Reminds me of Henry Kissinger and others being put on the Theranos board. How do we know these board seats are real and not just rubber stamping everything for the free pay check?

rchaud 2y ago
Theranos' board had former generals on it, the plan was for them to open doors to getting Theranos products sold to the military.
- Log_out_ 2y ago
  Theranos would have made exellent military gear. I can already see the fieldtest machines, printing out "not software as a service" related on every patients results. All thats missing is a forward assist..

jlaporte 2y ago

Yup. And aside from being NSA director he was Commander of U.S. Cyber Command, experience highly relevant to both OpenAI's security and safety posture, and to selling to government and defense buyers.

pseudalopex 2y ago

It is common. Its legitimacy is controversial.

squigz 2y ago

> The reality is that the perceptions of what AI can do is impacting the world far more than what it can actually do. Could you elaborate on this? What impact is the perception of what AI can do having? And what impact is it actually having?

jononor 2y ago
Not parent, just giving my opinion. The perception of what it may become is causing pressure to change wide reaching laws and legal practice. A) Copyright. The AI companies are blatantly disregarding practically everyones copyright when they train on all the data they can find online. The rights holders have not given them permission to do so. B) Privacy. Companies are just taking all the data of their customers and using for training. This is directly in opposition with GDPR, recently established in the Eurozone. Companies, notably Meta, are arguing - oh but AI is so important, that we do not have to ask for users consent. C) Compute/algorithms. Regulations on "AI" itself. With several actors, notably OpenAI/Altman saying it is so dangerous that only corporations like them can do it responsibly, aiming to do regulatory capture which benefits them. Large forces from the biggest companies in the world are attempting to change the legal landscape, and manipulate the perception of politicians and the public to ensure sufficient support to get the changes through.

beefnugs 2y ago

The most charitable positive spin on this is that his connections will help stop government from going fact-less banhammer on AI in general. But jesus I would assume most peoples brains can go real negative on this one.