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This is nowhere near the top. If I had to hazard a guess, the rabid propaganda and pushing of the ukraine war is near the top.

aprilthird2021 2y ago
You don't need propaganda to tell people invading another country is wrong.
- ganeshkrishnan 2y ago
  No but you need propaganda to push NATO borders on Russia, arm a coup, start a civil unrest, fund a war, destroy a peace treaty (Turkey 2022) and then drip feed arms to destroy two countries at same time. Even in a thread about sick US propaganda, the apologists find an excuse for war.
  - tim333 2y ago
    That sounds a bit like Russian propaganda you know. Like Russia sending the tanks to kill Ukrainians and take their land is all the fault of the horrible people pushing peace and democracy.
    - foverzar 2y ago
      How else something contradicting western propaganda is supposed to sound like? > all the fault of the horrible people pushing peace and democracy Please don't push this "nothing was happening in Donbas before 22". It's ignorant at best and just cruel at worst. Using the peaceful reunification agreement as a way to stall and to prepare for war against dissidents has nothing to do with "pushing peace and democracy".
  - halfmatthalfcat 2y ago
    This reads legitimately as Russian propaganda. Is this satire?
  - mopsi 2y ago
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  - aprilthird2021 2y ago
    I'm not a fan of either side. I really really don't like how America is overlooking the literal Nazis in Ukraine they are funding while pretending that various legitimate political positions on US social policies are equivalent to "Nazism". But I also don't think any of these things justify invading Ukraine. "Pushing NATO borders on Russia"? Why does that justify invading Ukraine? If every country next to Russia joined NATO, that still wouldn't justify it.
    - racional 2y ago
      Which "literal Nazis" are you referring to? There's only one group which this could possibly refer to -- the Azov Brigade. You can say anything you want to about them -- but they definitely are not "literal Nazis", and that's their entire point. Assuming you literally mean the literal sense of "literal" here.
      - aprilthird2021 2y ago
        I am referring to Azov, you're delusional if you think the brigade with literal Nazi symbols as their main insignia is not literal Nazis. They are powerful fighters, but any state with a semblance of wanting Western and US assistance should have disbanded the group, changed its name, changed its symbols, and put in place rules to stop them from constantly having Nazi insignia in their uniforms. Propaganda is a huge part of war, and this: https://www.newsweek.com/nato-says-it-didnt-notice-ukraine-soldiers-apparent-nazi-symbol-tweet-1686523 https://www.newsweek.com/nato-says-it-didnt-notice-ukraine-s... Is terrible propaganda, and it can be easily stopped. That's the most generous way of looking at it. The worst way, is that we'll have another "Fund the Taliban against Russia and see what happens" pt. 2 when the war is over and Azov beats all other parties to rule the area afterwards
        ganeshkrishnan 2y ago
        Look at that guy's historical comments. All his comments are pro war in Israel and Ukraine. He is the glowie the newspaper is talking about. All of his comments are bone chilling.

aprilthird2021 2y ago

You don't need propaganda to tell people invading another country is wrong.

ganeshkrishnan 2y ago
No but you need propaganda to push NATO borders on Russia, arm a coup, start a civil unrest, fund a war, destroy a peace treaty (Turkey 2022) and then drip feed arms to destroy two countries at same time. Even in a thread about sick US propaganda, the apologists find an excuse for war.
- tim333 2y ago
  That sounds a bit like Russian propaganda you know. Like Russia sending the tanks to kill Ukrainians and take their land is all the fault of the horrible people pushing peace and democracy.
  - foverzar 2y ago
    How else something contradicting western propaganda is supposed to sound like? > all the fault of the horrible people pushing peace and democracy Please don't push this "nothing was happening in Donbas before 22". It's ignorant at best and just cruel at worst. Using the peaceful reunification agreement as a way to stall and to prepare for war against dissidents has nothing to do with "pushing peace and democracy".
- halfmatthalfcat 2y ago
  This reads legitimately as Russian propaganda. Is this satire?
- mopsi 2y ago
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- aprilthird2021 2y ago
  I'm not a fan of either side. I really really don't like how America is overlooking the literal Nazis in Ukraine they are funding while pretending that various legitimate political positions on US social policies are equivalent to "Nazism". But I also don't think any of these things justify invading Ukraine. "Pushing NATO borders on Russia"? Why does that justify invading Ukraine? If every country next to Russia joined NATO, that still wouldn't justify it.
  - racional 2y ago
    Which "literal Nazis" are you referring to? There's only one group which this could possibly refer to -- the Azov Brigade. You can say anything you want to about them -- but they definitely are not "literal Nazis", and that's their entire point. Assuming you literally mean the literal sense of "literal" here.
    - aprilthird2021 2y ago
      I am referring to Azov, you're delusional if you think the brigade with literal Nazi symbols as their main insignia is not literal Nazis. They are powerful fighters, but any state with a semblance of wanting Western and US assistance should have disbanded the group, changed its name, changed its symbols, and put in place rules to stop them from constantly having Nazi insignia in their uniforms. Propaganda is a huge part of war, and this: https://www.newsweek.com/nato-says-it-didnt-notice-ukraine-soldiers-apparent-nazi-symbol-tweet-1686523 https://www.newsweek.com/nato-says-it-didnt-notice-ukraine-s... Is terrible propaganda, and it can be easily stopped. That's the most generous way of looking at it. The worst way, is that we'll have another "Fund the Taliban against Russia and see what happens" pt. 2 when the war is over and Azov beats all other parties to rule the area afterwards
      - ganeshkrishnan 2y ago
        Look at that guy's historical comments. All his comments are pro war in Israel and Ukraine. He is the glowie the newspaper is talking about. All of his comments are bone chilling.