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The theory is that we're due for another ice age and that there's going to be a pole shift. Pumping CO2 into the atmosphere would then be the best thing to do
by precompute 2y ago
The theory is that we're due for another ice age and that there's going to be a pole shift. Pumping CO2 into the atmosphere would then be the best thing to do to stave off this scenario.
- akaru 2y agoHow about we don’t do that? And if it indeed starts getting cold, we regroup?
- precompute 2y ago[flagged]
- saagarjha 2y agoSeems unreasonable to regroup by yourself, no?
- precompute 2y agoSeems unreasonable to expect people to work together during a civilization-ending catastrophe.
- hifromwork 2y agoThis actually sound very reasonable. About the only time people can agree is when there's a danger. Nothing unites people more than a common enemy (or, in this case, a phenomena). But I think GPs point was that if it starts getting colder we go back to carelessly pumping CO2 into atmosphere, but for now we should go with the mainstream science and keep on reducing that.
- precompute 2y agoMaybe in the movies, sure. The majority of the population is already carelessly pumping CO2 into the atmosphere even when most agree emissions should be reduced.
- seattle_spring 2y ago> About the only time people can agree is when there's a danger Haha, i thought the same thing when Covid started getting serious. Boy was I wrong.
- holoduke 2y agoReality is more mad max style free for all. Guy with the biggest muscles and guns wins.
- isthatafact 2y ago> "Pumping CO2 into the atmosphere would then be the best thing to do to stave off this scenario." which makes for a very convenient distraction/talking point of climate-focused science deniers. I am no expert, but every time I have checked into one of those supposed impending Grand Solar Minimum predictions (that will cause some sort of climate crisis), it has been pure pseudo-science with no legitimate or rational theoretical basis.
- precompute 2y agoDon't shoot the messenger. It's all theory and conjecture until it actually happens, and it has in the past, and it WILL happen again in the future.
- isthatafact 2y agoIt is important not to conflate "I have a hunch that x will happen" with "theoretically motivated predictions". Also, you are conflating a mild temperature drop that would be expected to be caused by solar minimum with an ice age and a "pole shift".
- danielovichdk 2y agoIt's no hunch and the author didn't express it as such. It's a well established theory https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles
- isthatafact 2y agoThose ~100k year cycles in earth orbit and spin are not related to the present discussion of sunspot cycles and solar activity. And (while not clear in this case) usually when someone claims that a "pole shift" will happen, they are usually referring to the crackpot claim that the planet will suddenly do something like maybe flip over or wobble violently causing the end of civilization: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataclysmic_pole_shift_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataclysmic_pole_shift_hypothe...
- mr_toad 2y agoWell if that were true it would be the opposite of inconvenient. It would be like a truth that’s, I dunno, what’s a good word for something that isn’t inconvenient?
- defrost 2y agoDenialism.
- precompute 2y agoInevitable; irrelevant to the fact of your existence.
- audunw 2y agoFrom what I understand, according to the best estimates this is already happening and we should have seen global cooling for a long time now if it wasn’t for greenhouse gas emissions .. which means that the level of emissions we have right now is far, far beyond what’s necessary for avoiding global cooling. This should be obvious if you look at best estimates of the rate of cooling/warming in the past. The warming we see now is happening much faster than anything seen before so it’s absolutely not a good thing in any conceivable way