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I recall back a few years reading some articles speaking about the sun entering in a Grand Solar Minimum cycle similar to the Maunder minimum, and that the resu
by c0brac0bra 2y ago
I recall back a few years reading some articles speaking about the sun entering in a Grand Solar Minimum cycle similar to the Maunder minimum, and that the result could be global cooling, etc.
Not sure if there's been additional research or conjecture since then.
- TheBlight 2y agoI'm convinced in a few hundred/thousand years scientists are going to be urging politicians to figure out how to pump more CO2 into the atmosphere due to cooling from cyclic perturbations of Earth's orbit. Too bad I won't be around to enjoy the irony.
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- idiotsecant 2y agoIs it ironic? Right now it's getting too hot so we want fewer greenhouse gasses, in the future it might be cold and we want more. I think it's less ironic and more just the intentional infant science of planet-scale climate engineering
- hughesjj 2y agoI don't think it would be any more ironic than a house using the heater in the winter and ac in the summer Also, acidification is another problem of co2. Honestly you might rather release methane or refrigerant if your goal was only to heat/insulate the atmosphere with minimal changes to chemistry, but I'm not a chemist etc Also never forget the great oxygenation event and the azola cooling the planet to the point of mass extinction and snowball earth
- TheBlight 2y agoFair enough.
- 1oooqooq 2y agoor we will learn those studies were by the same caliber of people who did the food pyramid etc
- semi 2y agoThe food pyramid is misunderstood 'those scientists' were from Sweden responding to protests over the increasing costs of food due to famine. When looked at from the lens of maximizing calories per dollar, it makes a lot more sense.
- 1oooqooq 2y agoit could have been divine revelation. what matters is that it is used to this day for policy.
- macintux 2y agoWhich is not what you said originally, when you disparaged those who created the food pyramid,
- idiotsecant 2y agoIn what way do you think the food pyramid is used today for policy? It's been known to be incorrect and not used for quite a while ...
- talldatethrow 2y agoMakes sense. In a similar vein, once fast food places started stating calories per item... It actually helped me maximize calories per dollar and eat more calories, which seems opposite of the original goal of helping people limit their calories. Who is going to fast food to keep calories low?
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- temp0826 2y agoRegardless of the cause of climate change, on any time scale (even if it is a 100% natural cycle and human effects are zilch in the grand scheme), pollution is icky and hey, I'm walking^W living over here.
- tomoyoirl 2y agoWith respect, 2/3 of the carbon dioxide out there is purely natural such that “icky” isn’t an appropriate foundation for the relevant public policy
- runsfromfire 2y agoWith respect, they said pollution is the icky part. I’m not aware of any major industries that are responsible for an appreciable amount of CO2 emissions and no other pollutants/icky stuff, but I’d love to be proven wrong about that.
- johnny22 2y agouhmm.. if we have to do that, we'll do it.. i don't see what's ironic about that.
- ben_w 2y agoGiven the orbital perturbations are on timescales of hundreds of thousands of years, no. (That said, if we make it past the next century, we're probably going to be disassembling entire planets with von Neumann replicators rather than concerning ourselves with something as small as a mere atmosphere).
- precompute 2y agoThe theory is that we're due for another ice age and that there's going to be a pole shift. Pumping CO2 into the atmosphere would then be the best thing to do to stave off this scenario.
- akaru 2y agoHow about we don’t do that? And if it indeed starts getting cold, we regroup?
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- saagarjha 2y agoSeems unreasonable to regroup by yourself, no?
- precompute 2y agoSeems unreasonable to expect people to work together during a civilization-ending catastrophe.
- hifromwork 2y agoThis actually sound very reasonable. About the only time people can agree is when there's a danger. Nothing unites people more than a common enemy (or, in this case, a phenomena). But I think GPs point was that if it starts getting colder we go back to carelessly pumping CO2 into atmosphere, but for now we should go with the mainstream science and keep on reducing that.
- precompute 2y agoMaybe in the movies, sure. The majority of the population is already carelessly pumping CO2 into the atmosphere even when most agree emissions should be reduced.