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Satya Nadella's Microsoft is such a weird company. It's like there's one side of it that is running with Zuckerberg's "move fast and break things" and the other

Satya Nadella's Microsoft is such a weird company. It's like there's one side of it that is running with Zuckerberg's "move fast and break things" and the other side is saying "wait, we're the most important software company in the world! Things can't break!"

wvenable 2y ago
This is a pretty insightful comment. That's exactly how it feels. The core of their technologies have never been more solid, including Windows. But then on top of that solid core is a bunch of "move fast and break things" and short-term profit choices that make the whole thing seem awful.
- hypeatei 2y ago
  Don't forget the ones that can't get a simple chat app to work right (Microsoft Teams) or the ones redesigning outlook which introduced a shit ton of bugs. It's amazing that humans as a collective have decided that private corporations are the best way to progress as a civilization.
wikidickynuts 2y ago
2 cultures? Doesn't sound too surprising to me... one that is feature oriented and another that is old guard trying to support legacy customers.
cedws 2y ago
Microsoft don't want to miss out on another big industry so they're compensating by trying to frontrun everyone whilst trying not to fall over.
rchaud 2y ago
Even before Nadella, MS took insane risks with Windows. Ballmer oversaw the disastrous Windows 8 wigh the fullscreen Start Menu, which was hated far more than Vista ever was. W8 didn't even last 3 years before being replaced by Win10. And that's to say nothing of the decade-long attempt to compete with Google and Apple in mobile with Windows Phone/RT/Nokia, which Nadella mercifully unwound.
- jmkni 2y ago
  I'm one of the very few people who genuinely loved Windows 8
TillE 2y ago
One side is open-sourcing .NET and VS Code and running GitHub well and making vcpkg. The other is crapping up Windows with embarrassing ad-ridden F2P games. It's really weird.
- Nition 2y ago
  One side preserving backwards compatibility through the past 30 years, the other replacing the taskbar and losing half the features.
- sunaookami 2y ago
  >open-sourcing .NET and VS Code They didn't open-source the debugger so that you have to use VS or VSC. VS Code also has shittons of telemtry (same for dotnet LCI) and when you use Codium you are (officially) not allowed to use their marketplace. >running GitHub well GitHub is down nearly every week and constantly has problems. I appreciate them making certain features free though.
makeitdouble 2y ago
One side is targeting corporate business, the other is for end-consumer. The eye opener for me is the Surface Pro 10 only existing for businesses. They cared to design and produce the whole device, but not ship it to regular customers. That whole market is forced to go to the more experimental copilot line instead (which could arguably be great, but you don't get to choose in the first place)

wvenable 2y ago

This is a pretty insightful comment. That's exactly how it feels. The core of their technologies have never been more solid, including Windows. But then on top of that solid core is a bunch of "move fast and break things" and short-term profit choices that make the whole thing seem awful.

hypeatei 2y ago
Don't forget the ones that can't get a simple chat app to work right (Microsoft Teams) or the ones redesigning outlook which introduced a shit ton of bugs. It's amazing that humans as a collective have decided that private corporations are the best way to progress as a civilization.

wikidickynuts 2y ago

2 cultures? Doesn't sound too surprising to me... one that is feature oriented and another that is old guard trying to support legacy customers.

cedws 2y ago

Microsoft don't want to miss out on another big industry so they're compensating by trying to frontrun everyone whilst trying not to fall over.

rchaud 2y ago

Even before Nadella, MS took insane risks with Windows. Ballmer oversaw the disastrous Windows 8 wigh the fullscreen Start Menu, which was hated far more than Vista ever was. W8 didn't even last 3 years before being replaced by Win10. And that's to say nothing of the decade-long attempt to compete with Google and Apple in mobile with Windows Phone/RT/Nokia, which Nadella mercifully unwound.

jmkni 2y ago
I'm one of the very few people who genuinely loved Windows 8

TillE 2y ago

One side is open-sourcing .NET and VS Code and running GitHub well and making vcpkg. The other is crapping up Windows with embarrassing ad-ridden F2P games. It's really weird.

Nition 2y ago
One side preserving backwards compatibility through the past 30 years, the other replacing the taskbar and losing half the features.
sunaookami 2y ago
>open-sourcing .NET and VS Code They didn't open-source the debugger so that you have to use VS or VSC. VS Code also has shittons of telemtry (same for dotnet LCI) and when you use Codium you are (officially) not allowed to use their marketplace. >running GitHub well GitHub is down nearly every week and constantly has problems. I appreciate them making certain features free though.

makeitdouble 2y ago

One side is targeting corporate business, the other is for end-consumer. The eye opener for me is the Surface Pro 10 only existing for businesses. They cared to design and produce the whole device, but not ship it to regular customers. That whole market is forced to go to the more experimental copilot line instead (which could arguably be great, but you don't get to choose in the first place)