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You know what would be catastrophically bad? A Recall AI feature being baked into Android. Like most people don't actually use personal computers anymore, even

You know what would be catastrophically bad? A Recall AI feature being baked into Android. Like most people don't actually use personal computers anymore, even laptops aren't common among demos younger than millennials. I can tolerate switching to Linux or buying a steam deck. But if this became a hard coded feature of android or iOS I'd have to give up smartphones entirely.

Gormo 2y ago
I'm sure Lineage, Graphene et al would immediately remove it. Something like that would likely also motivate a surge of interest in pure Linux phones, like the Librem or PinePhone, which would accelerate their development, and might be a net positive.
- okanat 2y ago
  Graphene maybe but it has a very limited set of devices it works on. Lineage may not be actually. They rarely go against what Google does. Developing any normal user facing OS with lots of bells and whistles so it has a useful and modern closed-source friendly app ecosystem is insanely hard. It is the huge software stack that Google put in Android that makes it nicer for many app developers to make apps for it. Those basically un-Linux the Linux parts of it to provide stable interfaces. I don't think this will change in the open source world in the next 3 decades and with increasing hardware complexity I expect even less success from independent Linux phone projects. If such a project wants to be successful it has to do many things against the usual Linux. I don't see that happening without any corporate support.
gigel82 2y ago
That's basically what Apple announced with the their semantic AI integrations; they didn't call them screenshots because they're smarter than Microsoft but it's the same thing (actually, slightly worse, since their "AI" is not only local, but can reach out to the "private cloud" under unspecified conditions).
hn_throwaway_99 2y ago
> Like most people don't actually use personal computers anymore, even laptops aren't common among demos younger than millennials. Is that actually true? I'd imagine people actually creating things on their computer would at least need the equivalent of a Chromebook, which I would consider a laptop.

Gormo 2y ago

I'm sure Lineage, Graphene et al would immediately remove it. Something like that would likely also motivate a surge of interest in pure Linux phones, like the Librem or PinePhone, which would accelerate their development, and might be a net positive.

okanat 2y ago
Graphene maybe but it has a very limited set of devices it works on. Lineage may not be actually. They rarely go against what Google does. Developing any normal user facing OS with lots of bells and whistles so it has a useful and modern closed-source friendly app ecosystem is insanely hard. It is the huge software stack that Google put in Android that makes it nicer for many app developers to make apps for it. Those basically un-Linux the Linux parts of it to provide stable interfaces. I don't think this will change in the open source world in the next 3 decades and with increasing hardware complexity I expect even less success from independent Linux phone projects. If such a project wants to be successful it has to do many things against the usual Linux. I don't see that happening without any corporate support.

gigel82 2y ago

That's basically what Apple announced with the their semantic AI integrations; they didn't call them screenshots because they're smarter than Microsoft but it's the same thing (actually, slightly worse, since their "AI" is not only local, but can reach out to the "private cloud" under unspecified conditions).

hn_throwaway_99 2y ago

> Like most people don't actually use personal computers anymore, even laptops aren't common among demos younger than millennials. Is that actually true? I'd imagine people actually creating things on their computer would at least need the equivalent of a Chromebook, which I would consider a laptop.