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Similar to BLUF -- Bottom Line Up Front. Hear that one used more for memos or emails, but same concept. Give people a sense of what's at the end so they see wh

Similar to BLUF -- Bottom Line Up Front. Hear that one used more for memos or emails, but same concept. Give people a sense of what's at the end so they see where the background is going. Use the story-spine if you want, but show a trailer to convince the audience there's some juicy explosion-ladden scenes at the end of the rainbow.

ryandrake 2y ago
Depends on the audience. I've seen presentations to Director-and-VP types that wouldn't progress past the first (fact summary) slide. You'll present a nice summary of your results with the high level conclusions, and someone will open their mouth and say "Well, what about Detail X that I heard about? How did you account for that?" and you say "We'll get to that, it's actually explained on slide 6." "Well, I heard through Dave that..." now you have to either discuss it immediately without the slide's context, or awkwardly scroll to slide 6 for the guy. Then some other exec pipes in with "But, my team's component Y was not included here at all!" and you say, "That's slide 3. I was planning on that being my first topic, but we got side tracked with Detail X..." Then the original exec "Speaking of Detail X, what about SubDetail Z, which I notice you left off [the summary slide]..." Uggghhhhh kill me now.
- alexthehurst 2y ago
  Those execs sound like terrible communicators. It’s hard for me to imagine a colleague acting this way in real life.
  - jdlshore 2y ago
    Oh, it’s real, and goes down exactly as GP describes.
  - bityard 2y ago
    If you've never had a co-worker or manager interrupt you mid-sentence to breathlessly ask you a question that is literally answered by the second half of the sentence you were GOING to finish, then my friend you should go buy a lottery ticket because this happens to me daily, in every job I have ever had in the last 20 years in tech.
    - michaelt 2y ago
      > If you've never had a co-worker or manager interrupt you mid-sentence I've had plenty of people interrupt me to ask questions while I'm presenting - which I think is generally something to be encouraged. When I've replied with "That's a very insightful question, we'll get to the answer in a few slides time" I've never had someone insist on continuing the interruption.
      - orf 2y ago
        Exactly, this is how you do it.
  - albert_e 2y ago
    I have been in some meetings where the "big boss" cannot follow any structure and will constantly throw out ideas and enquiries and demand we had ready answers for questions we are hearing for the first time or topic that was not on the agenda and pontificate about how some things should be better etc. Thankfully they only attended our meetings once a quarter and never involved in matters beyond pontification.
    - jonstewart 2y ago
      I’ve run into this a few times. At first I think it must be me, that I’m not communicating correctly. But then I see everyone else run into the buzzsaw, despite differences in style and approach, and I realize the “exec” is simply an interrupt-driven dopamine fiend. Inevitably they get rotated along, because having the attention span of a coke-addled squirrel is not actually good for business. If you can’t wait them out, or if they’re the CEO, find a different job.
- cess11 2y ago
  As a presenter in that situation you should tell them to shut it or leave, and take notes so they remember the questions they have for after the presentation. If they refuse to comply, leave.
  - squigz 2y ago
    This seems like a great way to speedrun losing your job.
    - ryandrake 2y ago
      Yea, I'm gonna tell my boss's boss's boss's boss to "shut it or leave." That's a bold strategy, Cotton, lets see if it pays off...
    - cess11 2y ago
      It's not a loss if management consists of a bag of dicks.
      - bigstrat2003 2y ago
        No, I'm pretty sure that it's a loss to not have income coming in while you scramble to find a new job.
        cess11 2y ago
        This is about a person that gets invited to hold presentations to upper management, and thus unlikely to have to "scramble".
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- wrs 2y ago
  In a previous life where I did a lot of presentations to Bill Gates, I had the opposite problem. He insisted on having the presentation printed out for him ahead of time, and he would usually have read and understood them (no idea when he would have time to do that). So you’d be on slide 2 going through your careful introduction, and he would ask an uncomfortable question about something on slide 12! The Amazon method of starting with quiet reading may be the only solution…

ryandrake 2y ago

Depends on the audience. I've seen presentations to Director-and-VP types that wouldn't progress past the first (fact summary) slide. You'll present a nice summary of your results with the high level conclusions, and someone will open their mouth and say "Well, what about Detail X that I heard about? How did you account for that?" and you say "We'll get to that, it's actually explained on slide 6." "Well, I heard through Dave that..." now you have to either discuss it immediately without the slide's context, or awkwardly scroll to slide 6 for the guy. Then some other exec pipes in with "But, my team's component Y was not included here at all!" and you say, "That's slide 3. I was planning on that being my first topic, but we got side tracked with Detail X..." Then the original exec "Speaking of Detail X, what about SubDetail Z, which I notice you left off [the summary slide]..." Uggghhhhh kill me now.

alexthehurst 2y ago
Those execs sound like terrible communicators. It’s hard for me to imagine a colleague acting this way in real life.
- jdlshore 2y ago
  Oh, it’s real, and goes down exactly as GP describes.
- bityard 2y ago
  If you've never had a co-worker or manager interrupt you mid-sentence to breathlessly ask you a question that is literally answered by the second half of the sentence you were GOING to finish, then my friend you should go buy a lottery ticket because this happens to me daily, in every job I have ever had in the last 20 years in tech.
  - michaelt 2y ago
    > If you've never had a co-worker or manager interrupt you mid-sentence I've had plenty of people interrupt me to ask questions while I'm presenting - which I think is generally something to be encouraged. When I've replied with "That's a very insightful question, we'll get to the answer in a few slides time" I've never had someone insist on continuing the interruption.
    - orf 2y ago
      Exactly, this is how you do it.
- albert_e 2y ago
  I have been in some meetings where the "big boss" cannot follow any structure and will constantly throw out ideas and enquiries and demand we had ready answers for questions we are hearing for the first time or topic that was not on the agenda and pontificate about how some things should be better etc. Thankfully they only attended our meetings once a quarter and never involved in matters beyond pontification.
  - jonstewart 2y ago
    I’ve run into this a few times. At first I think it must be me, that I’m not communicating correctly. But then I see everyone else run into the buzzsaw, despite differences in style and approach, and I realize the “exec” is simply an interrupt-driven dopamine fiend. Inevitably they get rotated along, because having the attention span of a coke-addled squirrel is not actually good for business. If you can’t wait them out, or if they’re the CEO, find a different job.
cess11 2y ago
As a presenter in that situation you should tell them to shut it or leave, and take notes so they remember the questions they have for after the presentation. If they refuse to comply, leave.
- squigz 2y ago
  This seems like a great way to speedrun losing your job.
  - ryandrake 2y ago
    Yea, I'm gonna tell my boss's boss's boss's boss to "shut it or leave." That's a bold strategy, Cotton, lets see if it pays off...
  - cess11 2y ago
    It's not a loss if management consists of a bag of dicks.
    - bigstrat2003 2y ago
      No, I'm pretty sure that it's a loss to not have income coming in while you scramble to find a new job.
      - cess11 2y ago
        This is about a person that gets invited to hold presentations to upper management, and thus unlikely to have to "scramble".
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wrs 2y ago
In a previous life where I did a lot of presentations to Bill Gates, I had the opposite problem. He insisted on having the presentation printed out for him ahead of time, and he would usually have read and understood them (no idea when he would have time to do that). So you’d be on slide 2 going through your careful introduction, and he would ask an uncomfortable question about something on slide 12! The Amazon method of starting with quiet reading may be the only solution…