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Frankly, if in a rare life-or-death situation you care about your hand luggage, I'd recommend carefully reflecting on life choices and priorities.

mpreda 2y ago
Here, take my hand luggage and go! I'll stay behind..
lesuorac 2y ago
Eh, I think this is a don't throw the baby out with the bathwater scenario. You have way more time than you might expect after a plane crash. "Finally, [Captain] Sullenberger walked the cabin twice to confirm it was empty" [1]. If anybody had grabbed their hand luggage (especially from below their seat) they would've still had time to evacuate. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549#Ditching_and_evacuation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549#Ditchin...
- imranhou 2y ago
  Ah I see you like to generalize. This plane was lucky that it didn't burst into flames as soon as everyone exited or worse yet while they were still exiting.
- sofixa 2y ago
  > You have way more time than you might expect after a plane crash. "Finally, [Captain] Sullenberger walked the cabin twice to confirm it was empty" [1]. If anybody had grabbed their hand luggage (especially from below their seat) they would've still had time to evacuate. But if they had taken their backpack or suitcase, and had dropped it, they could have blocked other people; knocked other people out; broken someone's ankle making them harder to evacuate etc etc. And this was a calm evacuation. Imagine a fire, low visibility due to the smoke, the sense of urgency, and you trip on some dimwit's suitcase, pushing the people in front of you down, some of them hitting heads, then panic sets in, the path towards that emergency exit is blocked, etc etc etc. Leave your fucking luggage behind. If everything is fine, it will get to you afterwards. If the plane is on fire, you won't, but you'd also not kill people by not taking it.
- tdullien 2y ago
  My question is: what could possibly be so important that you want to take it with you to have your hands full in an emergency potential life-or-death situation?
  - lesuorac 2y ago
    Uh, there's plenty of time to kill while you wait for the people ahead of you to deboard. Grabbing your phone isn't going to kill anybody. Hell, even when there isn't plenty of time to kill grabbing your phone isn't going to kill anybody. [1] You can phrase it as "important enough" all you want, but its really just why let an item to go waste unnecessarily. [1]: https://youtu.be/CtmxTj9pKqg https://youtu.be/CtmxTj9pKqg
    - toast0 2y ago
      Most phones aren't comparable to a bag, even a small bag. Yeah, probably put your phone in your pocket if it's accessible. Keep your wallet in your pocket. If your wallet doesn't fit in your pocket, at least grab your id and payment cards, if they announce a rough landing while on approach and you have time to prepare a bit.
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- FabHK 2y ago
  Different plane crashes are different. When a Sukhoi Superjet 100 crash landed in Moscow, a fire broke out and fewer than half of the 78 occupants managed to escape the plane on time. > Aeroflot claimed the evacuation took 55 seconds, though video evidence shows the slides still in use 70 seconds after their deployment. Passengers were seen carrying hand luggage out of the aircraft. And you think that you're competent to determine whether there is sufficient time or not after the plane just crashed? If I were sitting in the row behind you, I'd much prefer you didn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_1492 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_1492

mpreda 2y ago

Here, take my hand luggage and go! I'll stay behind..

lesuorac 2y ago

Eh, I think this is a don't throw the baby out with the bathwater scenario. You have way more time than you might expect after a plane crash. "Finally, [Captain] Sullenberger walked the cabin twice to confirm it was empty" [1]. If anybody had grabbed their hand luggage (especially from below their seat) they would've still had time to evacuate. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549#Ditching_and_evacuation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549#Ditchin...

imranhou 2y ago
Ah I see you like to generalize. This plane was lucky that it didn't burst into flames as soon as everyone exited or worse yet while they were still exiting.
sofixa 2y ago
> You have way more time than you might expect after a plane crash. "Finally, [Captain] Sullenberger walked the cabin twice to confirm it was empty" [1]. If anybody had grabbed their hand luggage (especially from below their seat) they would've still had time to evacuate. But if they had taken their backpack or suitcase, and had dropped it, they could have blocked other people; knocked other people out; broken someone's ankle making them harder to evacuate etc etc. And this was a calm evacuation. Imagine a fire, low visibility due to the smoke, the sense of urgency, and you trip on some dimwit's suitcase, pushing the people in front of you down, some of them hitting heads, then panic sets in, the path towards that emergency exit is blocked, etc etc etc. Leave your fucking luggage behind. If everything is fine, it will get to you afterwards. If the plane is on fire, you won't, but you'd also not kill people by not taking it.
tdullien 2y ago
My question is: what could possibly be so important that you want to take it with you to have your hands full in an emergency potential life-or-death situation?
- lesuorac 2y ago
  Uh, there's plenty of time to kill while you wait for the people ahead of you to deboard. Grabbing your phone isn't going to kill anybody. Hell, even when there isn't plenty of time to kill grabbing your phone isn't going to kill anybody. [1] You can phrase it as "important enough" all you want, but its really just why let an item to go waste unnecessarily. [1]: https://youtu.be/CtmxTj9pKqg https://youtu.be/CtmxTj9pKqg
  - toast0 2y ago
    Most phones aren't comparable to a bag, even a small bag. Yeah, probably put your phone in your pocket if it's accessible. Keep your wallet in your pocket. If your wallet doesn't fit in your pocket, at least grab your id and payment cards, if they announce a rough landing while on approach and you have time to prepare a bit.
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FabHK 2y ago
Different plane crashes are different. When a Sukhoi Superjet 100 crash landed in Moscow, a fire broke out and fewer than half of the 78 occupants managed to escape the plane on time. > Aeroflot claimed the evacuation took 55 seconds, though video evidence shows the slides still in use 70 seconds after their deployment. Passengers were seen carrying hand luggage out of the aircraft. And you think that you're competent to determine whether there is sufficient time or not after the plane just crashed? If I were sitting in the row behind you, I'd much prefer you didn't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_1492 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_1492