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Think it'll be hard to find solid evidence at this point, tbh. There's a huge difference between having quick access to your local canon, vs the entirety of hu

Think it'll be hard to find solid evidence at this point, tbh. There's a huge difference between having quick access to your local canon, vs the entirety of human output. Writing probably had a -5 effect on social bonding in your local community, whereas AI may comparatively be a -100 on having to think or solve problems at all. We've seen how social media has created cults and hive minds, AI is probably going to set us on a path where every single thing we do is standardised and optimised. Why spend 1000x time developing a solution when the entirety of human thought has contributed to achieving it in x time. It's a reality though, and we have to deal with it. We need a huge refactoring of the education system which takes into account the realities of the modern world, as opposed to grinding people out to work as bureaucrats in bigcorp. Using AI as a tool to 'get to the next level' should be a big focus of this. Collectively asking as humanity, what can humans actually do which current AI can't, and how can we leverage new tech to move forward. Once we've answered this, we should then plan courses around this. Ideally this'd end up with doing more work with our hands, getting outside and dirty, doing work on-site, taking part in mock events, massive role playing games, building shit with tight deadlines and requirements, etc. Bookwork and exercises are done - old hat. They're all solved. The Ghost in the Shell series was hugely influential for me, and it's quite incredible how accurate it's turning out to be. Maybe such topics would benefit from debating matters in future/dystopian worlds from fiction, so we can make sense of what's in store.

hammyhavoc 2y ago
"the entirety of human output" is doing a lot of heavy-lifting. Niche topics? Existing LLMs are crap. Things people think it is actually knowledgeable about? Also crap. Glue on your pizza? Recommending the user to kill themselves? The code output is equally tragic, but most people are bad devs, so can't see the shortcomings. You're talking about the "next level" for humans—it's a next-word prediction model. It can't reason or do useful things. Overhyped. This is the same nonsensical rhetoric people here spouted over crypto.
- addicted 2y ago
  Why should “niche topics” even exist anymore? I mean, seriously. The entire internet economy right now is all about companies trying their hardest to make sure you spend all your time on their platforms. It’s evident at this point that all of them believe AI is the future. So if niche topics exist where the immediate gratification of AI is not suitable, companies are not gonna sit around doing nothing. Either they will try and expand their offerings to cover those niche topics, or they will try and eliminate interest in those niche topics because they represent competition and therefore a threat to their businesses.
  - AnimalMuppet 2y ago
    > Why should “niche topics” even exist anymore? I don't care what the "internet economy" wants. People are interested in niche things. If the internet economy won't help them on those things, they'll find something that will.
- gaiagraphia 2y ago
  As a teacher with no programming and compsci background I've developed an entire interactive site which currently uses 50k database records; mapping grammar structures to questions to classical art to interactive quizzes to videos to collocations, etc, etc. It's effectively a Wikipedia of the English language with everything arranged into interactive lessons. 449 Svelte/js files in so far. ChatGPT helped me achieve this from scratch. The code is probably shite, as I'm chasing my own tail understanding what's happening, but I can only imagine that there's others out there using '''the entirety of human knowledge''' to fast-forward their development and realise their dreams. Of course, at the very top and bleeding edge, current systems aren't very helpful. And this is where we should be placing our curricula; treating school like a microcosm of elite society.

hammyhavoc 2y ago

"the entirety of human output" is doing a lot of heavy-lifting. Niche topics? Existing LLMs are crap. Things people think it is actually knowledgeable about? Also crap. Glue on your pizza? Recommending the user to kill themselves? The code output is equally tragic, but most people are bad devs, so can't see the shortcomings. You're talking about the "next level" for humans—it's a next-word prediction model. It can't reason or do useful things. Overhyped. This is the same nonsensical rhetoric people here spouted over crypto.

addicted 2y ago
Why should “niche topics” even exist anymore? I mean, seriously. The entire internet economy right now is all about companies trying their hardest to make sure you spend all your time on their platforms. It’s evident at this point that all of them believe AI is the future. So if niche topics exist where the immediate gratification of AI is not suitable, companies are not gonna sit around doing nothing. Either they will try and expand their offerings to cover those niche topics, or they will try and eliminate interest in those niche topics because they represent competition and therefore a threat to their businesses.
- AnimalMuppet 2y ago
  > Why should “niche topics” even exist anymore? I don't care what the "internet economy" wants. People are interested in niche things. If the internet economy won't help them on those things, they'll find something that will.
gaiagraphia 2y ago
As a teacher with no programming and compsci background I've developed an entire interactive site which currently uses 50k database records; mapping grammar structures to questions to classical art to interactive quizzes to videos to collocations, etc, etc. It's effectively a Wikipedia of the English language with everything arranged into interactive lessons. 449 Svelte/js files in so far. ChatGPT helped me achieve this from scratch. The code is probably shite, as I'm chasing my own tail understanding what's happening, but I can only imagine that there's others out there using '''the entirety of human knowledge''' to fast-forward their development and realise their dreams. Of course, at the very top and bleeding edge, current systems aren't very helpful. And this is where we should be placing our curricula; treating school like a microcosm of elite society.