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A lot of high end ikea stuff is REALLY good, it's not all honeycomb crap. Honestly it's ikea or luxury stuff, anything else does not make sense. You can't bea

by Iulioh 2y ago

A lot of high end ikea stuff is REALLY good, it's not all honeycomb crap. Honestly it's ikea or luxury stuff, anything else does not make sense. You can't beat ikea quality and quality at any price point.

eropple 2y ago
As somebody who makes luxury furniture, the rest of my house is IKEA.
ericd 2y ago
Yeah, we've been finding the same, a lot of the middle tier stuff might look nice, but it's usually kind of crap, maybe because they just don't have the same scale. Feels like the fast fashion equivalent of furniture, a lot of times. As an alternative, we've found antique shops that have amazing quality furniture for less than ikea's high end lines, if you're ok with the older styles.
stephenr 2y ago
To be honest they are pretty clear about it in their packaging. If it says solid wood it's probably fine. If it says particle board or fibre board or something other than solid wood it's an "assemble it once and never move it again" piece at best, and a "keep it for a few years" piece at worst. It's not like it's a problem unique to ikea. Buying particle board or mdf furniture is always going to give you a much worse product (in terms of quality and longevity) compared to something made with solid wood, or at the very least with decent quality plywood.
- johnwalkr 2y ago
  I've found even the cheap stuff to be long-lasting if you disassemble it before moving it. Carrying or pushing shelves in a way that turns them into a parallelogram is what damages them.
  - stephenr 2y ago
    The problem with that approach is the cheap stuff is particle board, and repeatedly screwing into particle board isn't a fantastic idea. The best result (in terms of a strong joint) from particle board furniture would be to add glue when screwing (i.e. in the hole with the screw) but that completely removes the option of disassembling it.
switch007 2y ago
Any specific examples of "really good" high end from their current catalogue?
- imp0cat 2y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39712344 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39712344 Here's my own (sry) post on how to pick the good stuff.
  - switch007 2y ago
    Person I quoted said good high end. I think you've interpreted good as just "looks good", based on that first minute of the video, which only talks about style. ÄPPLARYD is a cheaply made sofa that looks nice, with very poor quality fabric just like all IKEA sofas these days I'm fine with people saying it looks nice but it's tiring when people say it's "high end" and "high quality" and well made
    - Iulioh 2y ago
      Go on ikea and filter whatever product form higher cost to lowest
      - switch007 2y ago
        Ah ok, no specific examples then. That's a poor heuristic that's repeated ad nauseum. The trouble is even expensive IKEA lines are mostly poor quality but they have such good marketing and styling that people refuse to believe it But if you're happy with the most expensive IKEA products, good for you!
        Iulioh 2y ago
        What answer would have satisfied you? A breakdown of every ikea item and every specific detail for it? Yes, i'm talking for experience and i don't really have any data to back this up, i just have a lot of bad experience with any other furniture builder and not a lot of problems with ikea
Der_Einzige 2y ago
Bullshit. Amish folks are feeling the economic pain of high interest rates and have seen sales slow significantly. You can get crazy good deals on Amish made furniture right now, and both from in terms of the quality of materials and the quality of the assembly, it will be superior to anything at similar price point to Ikea. Folks keep acting like it's still 2022 and that we are somehow in a ZIRP era. It's not, and most assets are not selling and are therefor to be had for cheap.
- Iulioh 2y ago
  Amish made goods could be considered luxury products if handmade to high standards. The problem is availability (online and in person) and warranty (not only in a legal sense , but quality assurance) Can you tell me what's the price of a table with 4 chairs from a Amish workshop, for example?
- johnwalkr 2y ago
  That only helps people that live near an Amish community. Ikea is available globally.
- sofixa 2y ago
  Cool, how are Amish folks' shipping and return policies?
- chillingeffect 2y ago
  This is not the kind of forum where any reply should begin with calling someone else's respone "Bullshit."
johnwalkr 2y ago
I agree, at the low end it's miles ahead of pricier, worse stuff from Wal-Mart or Conforama (in Europe), covered in wallpaper instead of synthetic veneer. At the higher end, it's very good value. In the middle, it's hard to even find competing products.

by Iulioh 2y ago

eropple 2y ago

As somebody who makes luxury furniture, the rest of my house is IKEA.

ericd 2y ago

Yeah, we've been finding the same, a lot of the middle tier stuff might look nice, but it's usually kind of crap, maybe because they just don't have the same scale. Feels like the fast fashion equivalent of furniture, a lot of times. As an alternative, we've found antique shops that have amazing quality furniture for less than ikea's high end lines, if you're ok with the older styles.

stephenr 2y ago

To be honest they are pretty clear about it in their packaging. If it says solid wood it's probably fine. If it says particle board or fibre board or something other than solid wood it's an "assemble it once and never move it again" piece at best, and a "keep it for a few years" piece at worst. It's not like it's a problem unique to ikea. Buying particle board or mdf furniture is always going to give you a much worse product (in terms of quality and longevity) compared to something made with solid wood, or at the very least with decent quality plywood.

johnwalkr 2y ago
I've found even the cheap stuff to be long-lasting if you disassemble it before moving it. Carrying or pushing shelves in a way that turns them into a parallelogram is what damages them.
- stephenr 2y ago
  The problem with that approach is the cheap stuff is particle board, and repeatedly screwing into particle board isn't a fantastic idea. The best result (in terms of a strong joint) from particle board furniture would be to add glue when screwing (i.e. in the hole with the screw) but that completely removes the option of disassembling it.

switch007 2y ago

Any specific examples of "really good" high end from their current catalogue?

imp0cat 2y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39712344 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39712344 Here's my own (sry) post on how to pick the good stuff.
- switch007 2y ago
  Person I quoted said good high end. I think you've interpreted good as just "looks good", based on that first minute of the video, which only talks about style. ÄPPLARYD is a cheaply made sofa that looks nice, with very poor quality fabric just like all IKEA sofas these days I'm fine with people saying it looks nice but it's tiring when people say it's "high end" and "high quality" and well made
  - Iulioh 2y ago
    Go on ikea and filter whatever product form higher cost to lowest
    - switch007 2y ago
      Ah ok, no specific examples then. That's a poor heuristic that's repeated ad nauseum. The trouble is even expensive IKEA lines are mostly poor quality but they have such good marketing and styling that people refuse to believe it But if you're happy with the most expensive IKEA products, good for you!
      - Iulioh 2y ago
        What answer would have satisfied you? A breakdown of every ikea item and every specific detail for it? Yes, i'm talking for experience and i don't really have any data to back this up, i just have a lot of bad experience with any other furniture builder and not a lot of problems with ikea

Der_Einzige 2y ago

Bullshit. Amish folks are feeling the economic pain of high interest rates and have seen sales slow significantly. You can get crazy good deals on Amish made furniture right now, and both from in terms of the quality of materials and the quality of the assembly, it will be superior to anything at similar price point to Ikea. Folks keep acting like it's still 2022 and that we are somehow in a ZIRP era. It's not, and most assets are not selling and are therefor to be had for cheap.

Iulioh 2y ago
Amish made goods could be considered luxury products if handmade to high standards. The problem is availability (online and in person) and warranty (not only in a legal sense , but quality assurance) Can you tell me what's the price of a table with 4 chairs from a Amish workshop, for example?
johnwalkr 2y ago
That only helps people that live near an Amish community. Ikea is available globally.
sofixa 2y ago
Cool, how are Amish folks' shipping and return policies?
chillingeffect 2y ago
This is not the kind of forum where any reply should begin with calling someone else's respone "Bullshit."

johnwalkr 2y ago

I agree, at the low end it's miles ahead of pricier, worse stuff from Wal-Mart or Conforama (in Europe), covered in wallpaper instead of synthetic veneer. At the higher end, it's very good value. In the middle, it's hard to even find competing products.