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I bought an encyclopedia
- hobobaggins 2y agoI've become such a Luddite. This looks like a great idea, and I especially like the looks of the pictured encyclopedia.
- namaria 2y agoYou've become a labor activist radicalized by systematic curtailing of your organization rights?
- cratermoon 2y agoThe luddites were motivated by the loss of work because of industrial mechanization. What goes around comes around.
- ClosedPistachio 2y agoSimilarly, I purchased a copy of "Bosch Automotive Handbook" [1]. For $65 it will literally walk you through every component of a vehicle, from the metals required, the fuel, to the electronics. It's presence on my bookshelf is meant to be aspirational. https://www.sae.org/publications/books/content/bosch10/ https://www.sae.org/publications/books/content/bosch10/
- rnewme 2y agoVery cool, thanks for the link
- simpaticoder 2y agoIf you're looking to be inspired to take the plunge into car repair, check out M359 Restorations YouTube channel[0]. It's a one-man shop in Frankfurt that specializes in BMW restorations. It's a good look into what it takes to do projects like this well: the tools, the space, the knowledge of the secondary market and parts suppliers, and when/how to repair a component rather than buying a new one. He does use repair manuals for some things, especially engine rebuilds, but a lot of what he does is based on "what looks right" to a person doing this for the last 10-15 years. As a beginner looking to start with minimal infrastructure, he does some of his restorations outside his shop, often in borrowed personal garages of subscribers. Project Salt Lake City is a good example [1]. For someone looking to do a more advanced repair (arguably the most advanced possible) there are some good engine rebuilding videos, especially with Project Frankfurt[2]. One thing I find surprising is that he still uses a lot of 3rd party services. AC dis/charging, wheel alignment, tire mounting and balancing, dynamo measurement, block reconditioning, head and supercharger refreshes, and even car detailing (which he seems to be actively trying to avoid doing despite his instincts because it is a huge time sink). He is a dynamic, adaptable node in a fascinating, specialized capital network. 0 - https://www.youtube.com/@M539Restorations https://www.youtube.com/@M539Restorations 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a9rCI2zfPM&list=PLBcFoVFuPCfj7HlNSYJdjXAE5UJy73EyV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a9rCI2zfPM&list=PLBcFoVFuPC... 2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyqZoNwKeOM&list=PLBcFoVFuPCfjjYLPJ_mmq3jRqWljCoqUG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyqZoNwKeOM&list=PLBcFoVFuPC...
- scrlk 2y agoM359 Restorations is an absolutely fantastic channel, arguably the best car restoration channel on YouTube. I also recommend ChrisFix, especially for new DIY driveway mechanics as the videos tend to be more general tutorials using hand tools (e.g. "how to do an oil change", "how to replace brake discs + pads"). https://www.youtube.com/@chrisfix/videos https://www.youtube.com/@chrisfix/videos
- aspenmayer 2y agoI’m a fan of Vice Grip Garage for the everyday person. He routinely arrives to a broken down vehicle, performs on-site diagnostics and repairs, and then attempts to drive the vehicle 600+ miles back to his workshop. He has a hilarious wit and is quite knowledgeable, and he doesn’t really use fancy tools, techniques, or terminology, so it’s quite approachable and understandable for non-experts. https://www.youtube.com/@vicegripgarage https://www.youtube.com/@vicegripgarage
- tiffanyh 2y ago1,766-pages. Wowzer.
- freakcage 2y agoAs someone who never owns a car and wants to learn about car. Do you think it's a good book? I am still contemplating between buying book about car or buy pc games called Car Mechanic Simulator.
- eagerpace 2y agoWhat about learning more about something you already own and use? It would give you an opportunity to have a more hands on, real world experience and if it does break you can fix it?
- Rediscover 2y agoI really enjoyed John Muir pubs like How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive: A Manual of Step by Step Procedures for the Compleat Idiot. They are available for a handful of vehicles (the Subaru one is a favorite of mine). Available at a used bookshop or new. Great drawings, useful for non-motor-heads. The Sub version has info like resuscitating a drowned lizard :) Avoid if You hate R. Crumb style drawings and hippies. Try entering 1566913101 as the search in Amazon, currently USD23.00 Edit, adding: you don't need a specific one to gain great knowledge.
- AstroJetson 2y agoI had this book (and many many many VW's) it was a great help, I did my first valve adjustment with this book in hand.
- athom 2y agoPretty sure my dad still has his. I still have memories of his working on our microbus at the time, back in the early '70s. Don't think I was even five, yet, but I remember lying underneath the thing with him, watching while he worked on the brakes(?). And another time, he and Mom working a couple of jacks to pull out the engine. Yeah, that copy earned its keep. Think it still has some of the grime...
- contingencies 2y agoThanks! Looks like a great book, and it's on libgen (11E). However, the English is positively atrocious. The next edition would be wise to invest in a competent editor. Very first page: The International Convention on Road Signs and Signals [1] defines a motor or power-driven vehicle as a self-propelled road vehicle. Rail-borne vehicles and country-specifically mopeds which are not treated as motorcycles are exceptions. A second definition in this convention limits the term motor vehicle to those vehicles which are used for carrying persons or goods or for drawing on the road vehicles used for the carriage or persons or goods. "Country-specifically" -> "jurisdiction-specific definitions of mopeds". "in this convention" -> "in the convention" "the term motor vehicle" -> "the term 'motor vehicle'" The final sentence makes no sense to me and is certainly missing a comma.
- hobobaggins 2y agoPerhaps this is better for you: A second definition in this convention limits the term motor vehicle to those vehicles which are used for carrying persons or goods, or for drawing on-the-road vehicles used for the carriage of [not or] persons or goods.
- elicksaur 2y agoThis vs the and motor vehicle needing quotes are debatable. The last sentence doesn’t need a comma but probably should be reworded for clarity. Seems about as difficult to parse as typical highly technical writing.
- contingencies 2y agoIt's not technical, it's just bad.
- userbinator 2y agoIt likely being a German translation, I'm not surprised.
- gravescale 2y agoAnother great book like that is Machinery's Handbook: https://books.industrialpress.com/machinery-handbook/ https://books.industrialpress.com/machinery-handbook/
- hiAndrewQuinn 2y agoConversely, I spent years convincing my parents to buy a computer precisely so I could read Wikipedia. It was pretty much my main hobby between the ages of 14 and 16.
- nottorp 2y agoWikipedia is one of the major positive use cases for the internet*. As long as they can keep up with curation, that is. Paper encyclopedias may be fun, but let's point out that he bought one for the kids to play a 20 year old game in an emulator. So they only need information from 20 years ago. * along with cat photos, obviously.
- tpoacher 2y agoThere's a very implicit assumption in this text that the encyclopedia you buy in 2024 does NOT contain all sorts of AI-generated stuff. Not sure I have that much faith in the world anymore to trust that to be true.
- Mvandenbergh 2y agoThe timelines for encyclopaedia article contributions, editing and publishing are such that I highly doubt that an encyclopaedia bought in 2024 has much if any LLM generated content. I wouldn't want to make that bet for an encyclopaedia published in 2027 though.
- keiferski 2y agoKnowledge of and use of AI tools in non-tech industries is still pretty low. I wouldn’t expect a publisher of encyclopedias to implement AI tools for years.
- kevin_thibedeau 2y agoAI disclaimers already appear in journalism. It's a short leap to the broader traditional publishing world.
- keiferski 2y agoI don’t think that’s true. Traditional publishing is much more time consuming and expensive and doesn’t have the instant publishing model that online journalism does. In general tech workers on HN tend to overestimate how familiar with technology non-tech workers are.
- hammyhavoc 2y agoAI in publishing is already a huge problem. https://qz.com/for-dummies-books-publisher-john-wiley-sons-ai-deal-1851539065 https://qz.com/for-dummies-books-publisher-john-wiley-sons-a... https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/16/wiley_journals_ai/ https://www.theregister.com/2024/05/16/wiley_journals_ai/ https://www.wired.com/story/scammy-ai-generated-books-flooding-amazon/ https://www.wired.com/story/scammy-ai-generated-books-floodi...
- noufalibrahim 2y agoI don't get it. Does the set he purchased have the lost Beatles song? If not, what's the point?
- UncleSlacky 2y agoI still have my 1979 World Book set (plus the 1980 Year Book!). I part-exchanged a 1952 set I'd inherited from an older cousin - many of the articles hadn't changed in the interim. It still serves as an excellent stabilizer for a set of freestanding bookselves.
- bawolff 2y agoWhat a confusing rambly article. I read the entire thing, and I'm still not sure why he bought an encyclopedia. It seems like the stated main reason is so he can talk to his kids about how different sources are written and constructed. A noble goal, but it seems like a paper encyclopedia is pretty incidental to that goal. Quite frankly, it seems like the real reason is the author has nostalgia for his encyclopedia growing up, and wants his kids to experience what he experienced as a child.
- Neywiny 2y agoAgreed. I think at one point I either saw that you could get an offline kindle-esque Wikipedia device or I contemplated what it would take to make one and saw it wouldn't be terrible. If I didn't hallucinate that product I'd expect it to be the better answer. The world changes so rapidly (unless all you need to know is stuff from an old game) that I don't ever consider using printed materials as reference anymore.
- jhbadger 2y agoYes, there was at least one physical Wikipedia device (the Wikireader, released in 2009 and discontinued in 2014), but these days a more practical solution is to put an offline Wikipedia app like Kiwix on an old phone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiReader https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiReader https://kiwix.org https://kiwix.org
- int_19h 2y agoOne of Kiwix subprojects is a Raspberry Pi image creator. Once set up, it acts as a simple server you can connect to over WiFi with any device that has a web browser (and Kiwix serves pretty basic HTML so even very old stuff works fine).
- jiehong 2y agoI think the last paragraphs say it clearly: Our information literacy project must start somewhere, preferably far enough from the meandering blather of generative systems that when we encounter them, we have the tools under our belt to evaluate their results. And that, ultimately, is why I bought an Encyclopedia.
- cjk2 2y agoThis article is mostly fluff. There's garbage in encyclopaedias as well and little possibility of finding errata. It also teaches the kids that you should trust one canonical source of information, which is bad. Teach your kids critical thinking instead.
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- scandox 2y agoHe covers exactly this point you are making.
- gary_0 2y agoIn fact that's largely the point of the article if you read more than the first few paragraphs.
- rambambram 2y agoTrue. But "he" is a "she".
- surfingdino 2y ago> It also teaches the kids that you should trust one canonical source of information, which is bad. And teaching the kids to trust the source that cannot give them facts and changes the answer every time you ask the same question is good?
- rerdavies 2y agoTeaching kids to run down citations when they need more detailed information more than makes up for possible shortcomings of Wikipedia (if any, in actual practice). The greatest value of Wikipedia is that it is a launching point. That wasn't an option with our family copy of the World Book Encyclopedia. And Brittanica isn't really any better.
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- Tomte 2y agoOh yes. I‘ve got a Brockhaus, a German encyclopaedia, from around 1900. Feminism is female behaviour in men, also women‘s movement. Women‘s movement is about fighting for the rights that women are entitled to, according to their abilities and characteristics.
- mvc 2y agoantisemitism "is a passing phase in the history of culture" https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2012/apr/10/encyclopedia-britannica-11th-edition https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2012/apr/10/ency...
- casey2 2y ago"Though anti-Semitism has been unmasked and discredited, it is to be feared that its history is not yet at an end."[2] That's just a quote mine. If you read the whole article [1] It mentions other times where antisemitism was regarded as a "ephemeral craze" which later entered mainstream politics and agitation (duels between antisemites and jews and mob violence). It mentions revivals of organized antisemitism as recently as 1907. Nobody would read this article and come away with the impression that antisemitism was "a passing phase in the history of culture" unless they were talking about a thousand years in the future. Furthermore the entire article is extremely biased in the jews' favor (particularly noticeable when the article glosses over widespread investment banking fraud but calls antisemitism a "barbarian movement" and calls out popular antisemites by name and accuses them of fraud and having "evil notoriety". You also have the fact that most readers would consider Europe in the late 1800s to be more or less the same enlightened and liberal continent as it is now. So that particular section about antisemitism being a passing fad is just wishful thinking which would be picked up by most readers. Also it's well known that you can't predict the future, to my knowledge the 11th doesn't predict WW1 which is generally considered as being influential in the rise of the Nazis. People buy encyclopedias for their information not as an oracle. [1] https://archive.org/details/EncyclopaediaBritannicaDict.a.s.l.g.i.11thed.chisholm.1910-1911-1922.33vols/02.EncycBrit.11th.1910.v.2.AND-AUS./page/n155/mode/2up https://archive.org/details/EncyclopaediaBritannicaDict.a.s.... [2] https://archive.org/details/EncyclopaediaBritannicaDict.a.s.l.g.i.11thed.chisholm.1910-1911-1922.33vols/02.EncycBrit.11th.1910.v.2.AND-AUS./page/n167/mode/2up?q=passing+phase https://archive.org/details/EncyclopaediaBritannicaDict.a.s....
- isolli 2y agoThat's my intention too. As soon as we're done moving houses, I will buy the latest print edition of the French Encyclopædia Universalis, from 2012. A childhood memory I have is that my friends who had one at home had a much easier time doing their homework. I had to go to the library, and was never sure to find information on the topic I was looking for, whereas they had everything at their fingertips. (Thinking back, I'm not sure why the library did not have an encyclopedia...)
- Perz1val 2y agoMaybe they wanted you to search for the purpose of learning how to search for information. To be honest, this would make sense, but I suspect the real answer is something stupid that doesn't make sense
- michaelt 2y ago> Thinking back, I'm not sure why the library did not have an encyclopedia... Different libraries often have very different collections, depending on the community they're serving. A university library might have 10 copies of the same undergraduate introductory physics textbook, a copy of a few dozen other undergraduate introductory physics textbooks, and a load of more advanced texts in the same area. A community library might have a large selection of children's books and romance novels, crime novels, mystery novels, some popular science, audio books, travel guides, local history, but no college-level physics books. A high school library might have plenty of young-adult novels and high-school-level textbooks, but no children's books or advanced physics texts. Perhaps you were in a community library and they didn't get many kids doing homework? (Of course, libraries can almost always get any book you ask for on inter-library loan so that community or high-school library could get an advanced physics textbook if someone asked for one)
- n3storm 2y agoUSA is deeply different. Looks like antigeneralizationism. I live in Spain and I lived in Limerick and libraries are mostly similar, both university and municipal ones.
- paulcole 2y ago“I’m rich. I’m contrarian. I wish I was still a kid (and that the world was the way it was then, too). I’m looking to write a clickbait blog.”
- cxr 2y agoFor the reasons given in the article, the author and readers here who are convinced might also consider getting a copy of Pocket Ref. <https://sequoiapublishing.com/product/pocket-ref/ https://sequoiapublishing.com/product/pocket-ref/> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_Ref https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_Ref>
- noefingway 2y agoCheers for PocketRef! Another tool in my farm shop.
- WillAdams 2y agoOr, for more rigor and math, consider the CRC Handbook: https://www.routledge.com/CRC-Handbook-of-Chemistry-and-Physics/Rumble/p/book/9781032655628 https://www.routledge.com/CRC-Handbook-of-Chemistry-and-Phys...
- pixelmonkey 2y agoThis article reminded me that many years ago I used to make PDF compilations of related Wikipedia articles using some tooling developed by PediaPress, and then read those offline on my laptop or iPad. I recently encountered one such compilation of cryptography & security related articles in my EBooks folder, and noticed the PediaPress metadata on the PDF. Apparently PediaPress is still around, and its tooling is still open source: https://pediapress.com/code/ https://pediapress.com/code/ I also Google'd around a bit on this topic and it looks like there is an alternative set of tooling, wiki2book, focused on doing the same thing, but generating EPUBs that look good on e-reader devices. It also smartly doesn't require a modified/extended MediaWiki server, handling the quirks of the live Wikipedia instance specifically. Here is the info on that: https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/189qqxe/wiki2book_a_new_tool_to_create_goodlooking_ebooks/ https://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/comments/189qqxe/wiki2boo... https://github.com/hauke96/wiki2book https://github.com/hauke96/wiki2book
- globular-toast 2y agoI used to take advantage of the browser's "work offline" functionality. This started to work less and less reliably, even by the early 2000s, but Wikipedia still worked nicely. I would dial up at night when everyone was asleep and click through to all the pages surrounding some topic, like internal combustion engines. Then the next day I'd work offline and digest it all. I was sad when I clicked a link that hadn't been cached, but somehow having only the limited amount available meant I actually did read it all. Nowadays it's all available and lots of people don't seem to read anything ever. Sigh... There is an app for Android called Kiwix that lets you download the whole of Wikipedia for viewing offline. I keep meaning to do it but never got around to it, though.
- pixelmonkey 2y agoOn Android, the official Wikipedia app is surprisingly good at marking articles for offline reading, organizing them into collections, and downloading them, including related assets like images. When I'm traveling I install the app on my "travel phone" (which is Android / Google Fi) and take advantage of it along with Kindle app offline reading for Lonely Planet guides, and the Google Maps offline maps feature.
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- 2snakes 2y agoI'm currently reading the Propaedia and looking up things I don't know or am curious about in Britannica app.
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- keybored 2y agoI have access to an encyclopedia. I remember there being like two small paragraphs per entry.
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- TGIM 2y agoI recently purchased a Britannica 15th Edition 32 Volume Complete from a yard sale. I'm not a doomsayer so to speak but if the grid ever gets hit with a big enough solar flare, I'll have plenty to read.
- fouc 2y agoWould be nice if the Encyclopedia was detailed enough to be able to re-build the grid ;)
- 082349872349872 2y agoI have a two or three volume encyclopaedia-like work from the XIX that, as far as I can tell, was directed to factory owners. Its articles cover things like roofing that lets in natural light, how best to build private rail spurs into your factory, or even cheap and cheerful ways to provide worker housing in your company town, etc. etc.
- rerdavies 2y agoSupplement that with The Chemical Rubber Company Standard Mathematical Tables and Formulas, for when we don't even have digital computers! We shall rise again!
- tivert 2y ago> How do we make crayons? If you're being retro, old Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers episodes covered that regularly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ_MEFVx5jM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ_MEFVx5jM https://www.pbs.org/video/mister-rogers-neighborhood-competition-how-people-make-crayons/ https://www.pbs.org/video/mister-rogers-neighborhood-competi... > We had just bought an emulator to teach them to play Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? They loved it, but wanted to quickly look up clues --- quick, he drove off in a car with a blue and yellow flag! And which country uses pesos? The original versions of the games literally shipped with a copy of the World Almanac: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Almanac https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_Almanac. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole point of the game was to teach kids how to use that reference work.
- elbasti 2y agoThe world almanac that shipped with Carmen Sandiego was also used to prevent piracy. There were some parts of the game that would only allow you to proceed by answering a question that required possession of the physical book.
- aidenn0 2y agoI still have my 1988 World Almanac from that game. It had a color insert with all of the world flags. I used to love looking at that.
- fouc 2y agoMy takeaway is that if we want an offline encyclopedia, we'd basically need to download the entire wikipedia including the full talk & edit history.
- westcort 2y agoI did this too. I bought the 2021 version of World Book, specifically. When my kids ask questions, we use the encyclopedia to find the answer. My oldest taught me how to use the subject index. It fits in two milk crates. I find it comforting, as I grew up with a set, too. Except, the set I had growing up was much older.
- hedora 2y agoWe got an encyclopedia on craigslist free, and it’s great. You can order new ones direct from World Book, and they offer steep discounts on ones that are a year or two old.
- aidenn0 2y ago> For one thing, my kids were increasingly being asked to "do research" for their school projects. As far as I could tell, this meant just Googling materials, copying and pasting what they found, stealing photos on the internet, and generally neither digesting nor evaluating anything that popped up in search results. The degree to which my children's teachers actively don't care about this is hard to overstate. I was able to trivially catch this by googling phrases from papers my daughter had "written" and when I showed it to her English teacher the response was roughly: "Yeah, it sucks that all kids are doing that these days." Saw the same daughter doing homework by using C-f to search the textbook for keywords in the question and pasting the answer. Sometimes this yielded nonsensical answers because the keywords appeared in multiple places. She got a high A in that class (including perfect scores on the homework).
- emmelaich 2y agoSome teachers are spectacularly ignorant about internet things too; my students were given urls for movie editing on PCs and Macs. For the Mac the link for iMovie was not the Apple store but something like coolapps.ru.cn.cx/blah.
- skissane 2y ago> Some teachers are spectacularly ignorant about internet things too Nothing new; I remember when I was in high school, my geography teacher asked me if another student had plagiarised his assignment-she wasn’t sure, so she decided to ask the class “computer whiz”. He’d literally printed out Microsoft Encarta’s article on marijuana, stuck it to a piece of green cardboard, and used a green highlighter to colour in the photo of a marijuana leaf (he’d printed the article in black and white). He didn’t even bother to remove the “Copyright Microsoft Corporation” from the end of it, and yet still she was asking me whether or not it was plagiarised.
- userbinator 2y agoThat's either ignorant or enlightened, depending on what else they do...
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- 9cb14c1ec0 2y agoI grew up in a no internet home. I learned so much from the 2001 set of World Book my parents bought. I'm confident I read every single page in the whole set.
- LeoPanthera 2y ago> (They are still expensive, so I recommend second-hand purchases. Many libraries still refresh their volumes every few years, putting older ones up on eBay). If you actually can't afford one, I wholeheartedly endorse this. But if you can afford a new set, please buy a new set. They only still print them because a minimum number of people buy them new. I can't imagine this will last forever, so, support World Book. https://www.worldbook.com/encyclopedias.aspx https://www.worldbook.com/encyclopedias.aspx The previous years set is often discounted, if the full price is a little too much for you.
- susiecambria 2y agoBefore my younger daughter headed off to college, I put her through a mini library studies class. It was designed to teach her how to identify authors with different positions on a topic, write summaries, and write brief analyses. It was very loosely based on a required prep school class I took in the early 1980s. She absolutely hated it. Not sure how much good it did her given her lack of interest in the lessons. To this day I am grateful I had to take the library studies class. And while I was not the biggest fan of Mr. Hickock, he helped prepare me to learn better. We spent a ton o' time using encyclopedias and the card catalogue. I am a huge fan of printed books. There's nothing quite like them and they almost magical way they work.
- neontomo 2y agoI'm curious, did you explain to your daughter why you were putting her through it, like you've described it here? If I don't sufficiently understand the "why", the task becomes a chore.
- susiecambria 2y agoI did explain it. She didn't understand before but by the end, with some reinforcing chats with librarians, she understood. The why: Knowing how to research and assess points of view, axes to grind, etc. is essential for the kinds of college work she was going to be doing. And, it would help her in life.
- initramfs 2y agoThankfully it's nice to know that someone knows how important encyclopedias are and how much prior knowledge is taken for granted as the basis for a functioning society. Consumerism has become so accustomed to acquiring new goods and ideas that it is almost losing its ability to retain the very knowledge of intelligible information-sifting capability. People are not able to think critically to pass down the value of doing so, to tell whether a flood of AI non-sense is real, and no longer knows what to think, because the new products aren't encouraging that at all. I have read that AI is creating a selective pressure, but there's so much a human can do against millions of bots.
- bowsamic 2y agoWow it’s extremely ugly
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- alvperez82 2y agoCompletely agree with the author of the article; the excess of screens added to the rise of generative AI is leading to a generation without critical thinking. For some time, I have been discussing with my family and friends about the resurgence of encyclopedias, reliable sources of information commonly accepted by everyone. But people don't understand what I'm talking about; they are so used to the pre-digested information from traditional media that they don't question how much truth there is in a news story. The funny thing about this is that a couple of years ago I contacted a very prestigious publisher in my country to ask for information on how to get their encyclopedia, and well, the salesperson almost treated me like I was crazy. Anyway, let's see what this new rise of AI brings, and I'll keep trying to find an encyclopedia XD.